Left Arm Pulling or Inert?

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Old 09-09-2005, 11:17 AM
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Left Arm Pulling or Inert?
As a swinger am I "pulling" my left arm at start down into release? How does this relate to an "inert" left arm.... which seems to imply a left arm that is essentially doing nothing?
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:38 AM
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My feel is the left arm "pulls" because it is connected to the left shoulder. As my right shoulder goes down plane, my left shoulder goes back and up, pulling my left arm with it.

This may not be official TGM but it works well for me.
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:25 PM
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Re: Left Arm Pulling or Inert?
Originally Posted by cometgolfer
As a swinger am I "pulling" my left arm at start down into release? How does this relate to an "inert" left arm.... which seems to imply a left arm that is essentially doing nothing?
Inert left arm = no left arm muscle power.
Advice: do not try and pull with your left arm when Swinging!

Inertia can hold the Left Arm against the chest while the Body Turn is accelerating it and Momentum can then sustain it and come out with the Feel of Left Arm Power. See 2-M-4.

Get your butt off your chair and do this exercise to help you understand the previous paragraph:

1) Go to your normal address position and take a grip without a club.

2) Go to top of your backstroke.

3) Now "bump" your hips towards the target. This is the Hip Slide and is not exaggerated- only a little slide- enough to feel the tension of your left shoulder tighten. Notice how the angle formed by the Left Arm and the Left Shoulder decreases slightly (see photo in 6-B-4-0).

(Side note: Yoda usually talks about the Right Shoulder driving down plane to provide the Left Arm blast off, rather than hip slide/bump. This is like a Right Shoulder bump rather than a hip bump. It's the same. They both provide left side tension. If you do the Hip Slide properly, your right shoulder should move downplane (and on plane!) anyway- which is what Yoda is refering to)

4) Now, immediately after you feel this left side tension, release your right hand grip and perform a normal downstroke body turn. It need not be quick. Notice how your Left Arm springs off / blasts off your chest into the finish while maintaining reasonably straight with the help of Centrifugal Force.

Congratulations! You have just experienced Pivot Thrust and Momentum Transfer. This is how Swingers get most of their power. See 2-K. And this is why Swingers ain't got problems with Release Deceleration (6-F-0), while Hitters do! However, both Swingers and Hitters need to overcome Impact deceleration. But thats another topic...
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:41 PM
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Wedge and Tong,

Thanks for the input. Both make sense and Tongzilla's drill does provide a great visual and feel of left arm blast-off without the having to feel as if the left arm is being "pulled" down. I think this may have been an area of fog that I've struggled with for quite some time and one that has led to tension in the left arm/wrist/hand, thus interfering with ability to let CF uncock the left wrist properly.

Thanks gentlemen! I'm off to incorporate it into my feel system.
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Old 09-09-2005, 02:31 PM
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I haven't read any of the posts...

But I like to feel like I'm pulling down with the underside of my left arm....left hand "karate chop" on the back of the ball....then trust CF to square the clubface for me.

It looks like Tong explained that the l. arm actually adds little power...
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Old 09-09-2005, 02:44 PM
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Radius power is a measurement. How far you grip down on the grip makes a difference - lever length. As a swinger the 'feels' tend to be better focused on the left hand motion.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by birdie_man
I haven't read any of the posts...

But I like to feel like I'm pulling down with the underside of my left arm....left hand "karate chop" on the back of the ball....then trust CF to square the clubface for me.

It looks like Tong explained that the l. arm actually adds little power...
I suggest you try out my drill!

Per 6-B-4-0, "Left Arm Power" in any form or amount can still be considered #4 Accumulator Action. Otherwise it actually substitues for the Pivot to introduce the circular motion required to produce Centrifugal Force.
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:52 PM
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ECox actually helped me out with this. PP4 gets loaded. The pivot SLINGS the club INTO THE GROUND. And then the BLASTING OFF the chest pulls the club out of the ground. Sling the entire Primary Lever Assembly INTO THE GROUND and let the Pivot pull it out via the left arm being blasted off the chest.
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Old 09-10-2005, 03:42 AM
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Can you relate to this feel like watching a baseball player take practice swings. I always watch their left arm and see how it swings. Is this more of the action you are talking about..............
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Old 09-10-2005, 04:26 AM
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