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Old 10-14-2006, 10:36 PM
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Line of Compression . . .
Line of Compression is the "Principle of Golf" . . . so I ask the following . . .

What is the RELATIONSHIP OF THE LINE OF COMPRESSION TO THE PLANE LINE?

What is the RELATIONSHIP OF THE LINE OF COMPRESSION TO THE LINE OF FLIGHT?

What is the RELATIONSHIP OF THE LINE OF COMPRESSION TO THE ANGLE OF APPROACH?

What is the RELATIONSHIP OF THE LINE OF COMPRESION TO THE SELECTED HINGE ACTION? (HORIZONTAL ANGLED VERTICAL)?

What is the RELATIONSHIP OF THE LINE OF COMPRESSION TO THE DIRECTION OF THRUST?

Does the HOOKED CLUBFACE EFFECT THE LINE OF COMPRESSION?

What is the Line of Compression dependent upon the ClubFACE, clubHEAD or the Sweetspot?

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The smaller the velocity of the object, the less centripetal force you will have to apply.
The smaller the length of rope (radius), the more centripetal force you will have to apply to the rope.
Notice that the centripetal force and the centripetal acceleration are always pointing in the same direction.

If you let go of the rope (or the rope breaks) the object will no longer be kept in that circular path and it will be free to fly off on a tangent.
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If i understood your question ..
7-18 Pulley
7-23 para 3.
Relation with the radius of endless belt ..clubhead speed etc.
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Originally Posted by nuke99
If i understood your question ..
7-18 Pulley
7-23 para 3.
Relation with the radius of endless belt ..clubhead speed etc.
Naw I'm just saying if you had to draw all that crap on paper what would it look like?

If you look at them little moving drawing thingies you'll see that the direction of the force is at right angles or tangent to the radius of the circle.

So do you reckon the direction of the force is the Line of Compression or just the direction of the force?
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ahhh....the question becomes clearer after i reread your question.

Ok.. i am eating my instant noodles and following this thread.
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Naw I'm just saying if you had to draw all that crap on paper what would it look like?

If you look at them little moving drawing thingies you'll see that the direction of the force is at right angles or tangent to the radius of the circle.

So do you reckon the direction of the force is the Line of Compression or just the direction of the force?
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"The original contact points of Clubface and ball must remain in contact throughout the entire Impact Interval." "There must be a perfectly centered action--or a compensating manupulation." (from--2-C-O)

I believe the IMPACT INTERVAL is only about 3/4 of an Inch, and lasts for about 4/10,000 of a second, but it is a big deal. We want NO LEAKAGE here.

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Originally Posted by lagster
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"The original contact points of Clubface and ball must remain in contact throughout the entire Impact Interval." "There must be a perfectly centered action--or a compensating manupulation."
What does this mean ? does it mean that during impact interval the ball does not rotate and move up the clubface - that is the way i always thought it happened - to get backspin. but that means the ball and clubface impact contact points move... i am not really sure what is going on... any help please ?
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Line of Compression is the "Principle of Golf" . . . so I ask the following . . .

What is the RELATIONSHIP OF THE LINE OF COMPRESSION TO THE PLANE LINE?

What is the RELATIONSHIP OF THE LINE OF COMPRESSION TO THE LINE OF FLIGHT?

What is the RELATIONSHIP OF THE LINE OF COMPRESSION TO THE ANGLE OF APPROACH?

What is the RELATIONSHIP OF THE LINE OF COMPRESION TO THE SELECTED HINGE ACTION? (HORIZONTAL ANGLED VERTICAL)?

What is the RELATIONSHIP OF THE LINE OF COMPRESSION TO THE DIRECTION OF THRUST?

Does the HOOKED CLUBFACE EFFECT THE LINE OF COMPRESSION?

What is the Line of Compression dependent upon the ClubFACE, clubHEAD or the Sweetspot?

Check these out . . . from http://regentsprep.org/Regents/physi...if/default.htm




The smaller the velocity of the object, the less centripetal force you will have to apply.
The smaller the length of rope (radius), the more centripetal force you will have to apply to the rope.
Notice that the centripetal force and the centripetal acceleration are always pointing in the same direction.

If you let go of the rope (or the rope breaks) the object will no longer be kept in that circular path and it will be free to fly off on a tangent.
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The impact point plane line is a chord of the clubhead orbit on a line parallel to the ground. The LOC at impact point is an onplane tangent of the clubhead orbit. The angle of approach travels through the sweetspot impact point to low point. These lines are all on the face of an inclined plane and all intersect at the point that the sweetspot travels through the ball which means it maintains its vertical relationship to the actual impact point via clubface position but centered horizontally viewed directly on from behind.

The line of compression is seperate from the positioning of the clubface for initial ball direction. The ball after being deformed will 'kick' off the clubface and is thus diverted from its tangential path. The line of compression is always going to tangential at impact point but the clubface motion via hinge action will manipulate the line of compression until it kicks off the clubface.

Horizontal hinging for a straightaway flight will sustain and carry the tangential line with the closing of the clubface through impact so that at seperation the LOC is in a vertical plane (which the line of flight will be in) which is parallel with the impact point plane line. For Vertical Hinge action, the compression is lost and the ball does not deform on the face and thus at seperation the LOC is still tangential. Angled - inbetween....

The curvature of the ball is when the clubface is open or closed relative to the vertical plane of the sustained line of compression at seperation parallel to the chord(plane line) relative to the ground. The ball needs to be deformed in order to kick off the clubface to spin the ball on a different plane other than the vertical plane of the initial flight via clubface position at seperation inorder to use the venturi effect to create curvature.

The thrust and the LOC are both onplane and intersect the plane lines.

I've typed this after a long night shift so sorry I've if not been clearer.... I'll reread when wake up and make sure its to the best of my knowledge accurate

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Originally Posted by Mathew
Great Questions !

I love quizes...

The impact point plane line is a chord of the clubhead orbit on a line parallel to the ground. The LOC at impact point is an onplane tangent of the clubhead orbit. The angle of approach travels through the sweetspot impact point to low point. These lines are all on the face of an inclined plane and all intersect at the point that the sweetspot travels through the ball which means it maintains its vertical relationship to the actual impact point via clubface position but centered horizontally viewed directly on from behind.

The line of compression is seperate from the positioning of the clubface for initial ball direction. The ball after being deformed will 'kick' off the clubface and is thus diverted from its tangential path. The line of compression is always going to tangential at impact point but the clubface motion via hinge action will manipulate the line of compression until it kicks off the clubface.

Horizontal hinging for a straightaway flight will sustain and carry the tangential line with the closing of the clubface through impact so that at seperation the LOC is in a vertical plane (which the line of flight will be in) which is parallel with the impact point plane line. For Vertical Hinge action, the compression is lost and the ball does not deform on the face and thus at seperation the LOC is still tangential. Angled - inbetween....

The curvature of the ball is when the clubface is open or closed relative to the vertical plane of the sustained line of compression at seperation parallel to the chord(plane line) relative to the ground. The ball needs to be deformed in order to kick off the clubface to spin the ball on a different plane other than the vertical plane of the initial flight via clubface position at seperation inorder to use the venturi effect to create curvature.

The thrust and the LOC are both onplane and intersect the plane lines.

I've typed this after a long night shift so sorry I've if not been clearer.... I'll reread when wake up and make sure its to the best of my knowledge accurate
This is what I was after! Thanks! I think you are "on to it." I wonder if we could accomplish this with a visual aid? Even if it's just a drawing scanned in? Doesn't have to be one of those fancy high-tech jobs that you are so great at. I will work something up on my end too . . . maybe we can compare?

What do you think?

Again thanks for the help!

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