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Old 04-26-2007, 11:31 AM
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Can someone tell me how I can stop flipping my hands at or before impact?
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:17 PM
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Can someone tell me how I can stop flipping my hands at or before impact?
Stop using them. Your hands are over active.
Only the left half of the Flying Wedge moves vertically to uncock- and on the swing plane. The right wrist remains bent at impact. Drive the hands to an AIMING POINT past the ball and there is no need to flip them. Maintain Lag beyond ball poistion.

On another thread there was talk about the hands remaining "frozen." Frozen is just keeping the Flying Wedges intact and OPERATING correctly. Left -cock and uncock and the right -bent and motionless. Frozen does not mean stiff, static or rigid. Frozen means NOT wobbly.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:31 PM
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Stop using them. Your hands are over active.
Only the left half of the Flying Wedge moves vertically to uncock- and on the swing plane. The right wrist remains bent at impact. Drive the hands to an AIMING POINT past the ball and there is no need to flip them. Maintain Lag beyond ball poistion.

On another thread there was talk about the hands remaining "frozen." Frozen is just keeping the Flying Wedges intact and OPERATING correctly. Left -cock and uncock and the right -bent and motionless. Frozen does not mean stiff, static or rigid. Frozen means NOT wobbly.
When I try to keep the right wrist bent back my left wrist doesn't uncock for some reason.
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Old 04-26-2007, 01:02 PM
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When I try to keep the right wrist bent back my left wrist doesn't uncock for some reason.
Jerry,

That makes perfect sense if you are conditioned to uncock your left wrist as a flipping motion.

Uncocking of the left wrist is a vertical hammering motion, not a side to side horizontal motion.

Trust me, you aren't alone. The vast majority of golfers flip their hands through impact. Once I understood the role of the left and right hands I worked really hard to get over flipping. I started with training aids just so I could get the feel of what the left wrist does through impact.

I literally started with a hard plastic comb or credit card stuck between my glove and watch on top of my left wrist. These days you can buy a glove with a rigid piece of plastic in them. Later I bought a right wrist brace to understand the feel of the right wrist motion through impact. These tools will get you about 75% there and are good "feel" devices.

Shameless plug but, you can save yourself a bunch of time/energy/range balls by just visiting Lynn, Ted or any of our Professional Contributors.

Learning how Not to flip will take every area of your swing to a new level.
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Old 04-26-2007, 01:55 PM
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When I try to keep the right wrist bent back my left wrist doesn't uncock for some reason.

You may be preventing your right arm from straightening while you're trying to keep the right wrist bent. I know that I've had that issue before. If you allow the right arm to extend (w/o flattening the right wrist), the left wrist should uncock, since it is the bending of the right elbow that should cock the left wrist in the first place.
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:07 PM
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You must understand that the left wrist uncocking is a HAMMERING motion. Get your hammer out and just hammer some crap. That's the way your left wrist has to work. Have you ever flipped a hammer? All you are doing with a golf club is hammering on plane. So basically TURN your left wrist to the plane and make that hammering motion downplane. The allow this motion to be TRANSFERRED via a ROLL of your left hand into its vertical alignment.

So first hammer stuff with a hammer normally. Then put it in your left hand with the head facing to your left and hammer something to your left. Notice how your hand turns away on the backstroke and then HAS TO ROLL to strike squarely on the downstroke.
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:24 PM
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OK - So everyone wants to know, "how do I get there?". This assumes you understand the vertical hammering action of the left wrist down plane. I'll try to keep it simple but there is always a danger in that.

Start with chip shots - When you've mastered chipping with a flat left/bent right wrist move to step two. No need to roll the hands just yet. This will train your hands to feel compression. Hit down and through with a forward leaning clubshaft, hands well ahead of the ball at impact.

Pitch shots - Insert a little clubface roll and left wrist cock into your total pitch motion and finish your swing at follow through (both arms straight) with the right wrist still in it's bent/level condition. Here you can uncock down plane and roll through impact. Down and out with both motions. Feel like you are going to drag your left hand knuckles through the dirt in front of the ball. The hands must be leading the clubhead well past impact and into the end of the motion.

Focus on a forward leaning clubshaft at impact. To do this your hands must be in front of the ball at impact. Remember that the clubface is rolling so use your pivot to carry your hands to both arms straight. Always hit down and out, drive the ball into the ground and take a divot in front of the ball. The check point is at both arms straight. Is your right wrist still bent and left wrist slightly rolled??? Start at 15 yards and move up to 60 yards with your pitching wedge. At the pitch finish with the left wrist slightly recocked, the right wrist should still be bent. Make sure on your backswing that your right forearm doesn't go past parallel to the ground and at the finish your left forearm doesn't go past parallel to the ground. It's a pitch shot, or better yet - Acquired Motion.

This should take you a few months to master unless you are close to having your flip cured.

Full shots - Once you have mastered acquired motion without flipping, move to the full swing. It is simply a notch above a pitch shot feel with a full roll finish. Don't swing hard or you will likely flip. You can begin swinging harder when your pivot is trained to actuate the downstroke and set up enough momentum to pull your hands and the dragging clubhead through impact. You can also focus on the left hand karate chop, frisbee throw into the inside quadrant of the ball imagery. Go ahead and uncock/hammer downplane and full roll into the finish. The right wrist will feel bent well into follow-through but in reality the speed and weight of the clubhead will pull the right wrist flat at both arms straight.

One of the things that stuck with me was a comment that Ted made one day on the lesson tee. He said "As long as you keep your hands rolling through impact, it's very difficult to bend the left wrist."

I applied that to my 16 year old daughters swing one day when we were out playing 9 holes. She was flipping off the tee with the driver and hitting it about 130 yards so I gave her a quick drill.

Had her stand straight, extend the driver straight out in front of her, and swing it right to left while rolling her forearms. A full clubface roll. I told her to use the same motion, just bend over the ball. She made the most beautiful soaring 180 yard drive I've ever seen. (OK, it was my daughter). Put it through the fairway on the ladies tee. Told her she needed less club next time.
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bmike View Post
.... Frozen does not mean stiff, static or rigid. Frozen means NOT wobbly.
Well said, as always, Mike.....
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thank you everybody
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:55 PM
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thank you everybody
jerry,

the following item, from a guy who knows,

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There is a danger with pp3. If you push pp3 with just the index finger you will get throw-away, a flip. The right forearm Flying Wedge and the pivot drives pp3- not active hands.
may be the answer to your prayers once you embody it into your swing.
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