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Old 06-21-2008, 12:35 PM
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For those of you that have studied it beyond the magazine articles, whats it all about and why is it catching on?
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Old 06-21-2008, 01:32 PM
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The Centered Arc of Stack and Tilt
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For those of you that have studied it beyond the magazine articles, whats it all about and why is it catching on?
I think the greatest benefit of Stack and Tilt (Andy Plummer and Mike Bennett) is its emphasis on the centered and stationary head. When you keep your head steady -- no Swaying (Fourth Snare / 3-F-7-D) -- good things happen.

As Andy explained to me on the practice tee of last year's AT&T Classic, the much misunderstood 'tilt' portion of S&T is necessary to restore the centered head of the player who has swayed to the right (and 'tilted' his spine away from the target). In other words, after the Sway, you must 'tilt back' (toward the target) to re-center the head that never should have moved in the first place! This is the demon they fight in so many of the players who come to them.

"But Andy," said I, "What if the player keeps his head centered and stationary . . . like this . . ." (and I demonstrated my backstroke).

"That's perfect," said he. "You don't need to tilt."



So . . . if you sway to the right, S&T dictates that you 'tilt back' to the left to restore the centered head (and the 'stack' of the lower and upper body). But, if you correctly 'stack', i.e., never 'unstack', then you don't need to 'tilt'.

Guess the editors at Golf Digest didn't think we needed a system just called 'Stack'.

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Old 06-21-2008, 04:44 PM
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I think the greatest benefit of Stack and Tilt (Andy Plummer and Mike Bennett) is its emphasis on the centered and stationary head. When you keep your head steady -- no Swaying (Fourth Snare / 3-F-7-D) -- good things happen.
Yes, a stationary head from solid anchors and flexable spine angle. It also has solid extensor action from take-away to follow through. Which 'forces' or demands the golfer to stop his back stroke at the end and not the top. This eleminates for the general public the vanity of the long back swing with folding elbows.
I'm no expert but I enjoy the feel of my spine adjusting and re-adjusting naturally on the back swing. I never thought swaying over the right leg, even a little, as in General instruction, was the way to pivot.

It really isn't counter to TGM- just a slightly different constructed machine.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:24 PM
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the most misunderstood concepts deal with the actual "spine angle" not staying in the same position but actually continuously flexing and extending throughout the swing
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Old 07-04-2008, 04:05 PM
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the most misunderstood concepts deal with the actual "spine angle" not staying in the same position but actually continuously flexing and extending throughout the swing
Its the way the head can remain centered and stable. The spine is not a straight rod- so it can't just rotate under the head.

bottom line is that the head does and must remain centered and steady.
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:25 PM
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What are some of the TGM methods involved with Stack and Tilt?
As a newbie to TGM, which, by the way, really is the greatest golf book ever made, I wanted to gain some clarity on the certain positions from the book that are prevalent in Stack and Tilt. It seems to me that they use the standard knee action, where the left knee bends more and right knee straightens on the backswing, as well as a steady head, but what other things do you guys see that are in the Golfing Machine? I dont have the book in front of me, but would a turning shoulder takeaway make the spine and hip turn too flat to be on the correct plane? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

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Old 07-11-2008, 10:30 PM
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For those of you that have studied it beyond the magazine articles, whats it all about and why is it catching on?
It is a compelling way to control the club swing bottom and limit the rotation of the clubface around impact. In addition, there are a few primary ways the pattern can be adjusted to hit a variety of shots.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:31 PM
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Hey guys, thanks for the great posts on the subject. It was mentioned that Stack and Tilt is possibly a motion for hitters, and because I am a swinger who already comes too far from the inside and has too much throwaway, am I flirting with trouble if I try to swing like S & T? Or should I keep with it and just focus on holding the right arm wedge to limit throwaway?
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