Base of the Neck vs. Through the Head "centers"

[12 piece bucket]

Mathew . . .you must be commended on your grooming habits. Do you wax? Just kidding very illustrative pics as always!

[brianmanzella]

I simply will not get off topic.

and right now, the floor is Mathew's.

and the answer to my question is.....?

[Martee]

Mathew nice work but as I sit here ready to go to bed, one has to ask oneself the question, Are these the images you want floating around in your head as you go to bed?

I suggest Lynn have you work with a model, how about we have Lynn get you connected up with say Natalie Gulbis and you can do the technical stuff, she can model it?

Nice work...

[brianmanzella]

Well....

Let me comment on Mathew's shirt-less pics:

PERFECT!

[brianmanzella]

Mathew,

Your backswing pivot is simply great.

Really. A+

I would love any golfer to do it exactly as is.


12 piece,

I made my points in the opening post of this thread...

noone has said anything like this:

If you keep your head still your #3 accumulator angle has less travel in relation to the axis tilt required with the stationary head pivot center (an example).

Got it?

[Yoda]

...how about we have Lynn get you connected up with say Natalie Gulbis and you can do the technical stuff, she can model it?

Good idea, Martee. I do believe that would blow us through the 2,000 member mark before our one-year anniversary (next week)!

Move over, Homer...

Here comes Natalie!

[Martee]

Brian wrote...

I will define this 'performance' in the following way:

A. Best able to create and sustain lag pressure
B. Best able to 'draw' a straight plane line
C. Best able to control hinge action

Got it?

Ok.

Here is my OPINION:

I think creating and sustaining lag pressure is easier with the base of the neck.

I think staying or getting 'on top' (or behind, if you prefer) of the sweetspot with your #3 pressure point—as in Horizontal Hinging—is easier with the base of the neck.

I think performing ANGLED hinge action or vertical hinge action to be easier with the "through the head" center.

If you bend you plane line too much to the left as a rule, you will find it easier to NOT bend it left with the "base of the neck" center.

If you bend the plane line to the right as a rule, , you will find it easier to NOT bend it right with the "through the head" center.

What do ya'll think?

Later you asked for

I am looking for an answer of any mechanical validity of what happens to the PATTERN and what happens to the club in both methods and if there are any advantages to either.

Maybe I have missed something but I still don't understand that if you the stationary center as the Head, why you would not receive all the benefits you claim you have with the stationary neck?

Is there some position for the Head to be in other than inline with the neck that has this benefit?

I definitely see the value in using the base of the skull (the head) over the neck as you don't want this 20 plus lb object flopping around, disrupting your balance, your eye alignment, etc.

The head as a component isn't an active component, or at least isn't suppose to be, so for it have negative results, I would assume that it has become an active disruptive component.

Mechanically, Science, etc. all would support the supposition that anchoring (so to speak, maintaining a central position) at the ends is superior to anchoring away from the ends. It reduces or minimizes the potential for variations, wobbling, etc. while allowing rotational drive to achieve its maximum on a predictable path.

[brianmanzella]

Hey Lynn,

What do you think about Mathew's shirt-less backswing?

Good? Bad? could be better?

[Martee]

Hey Lynn,

What do you think about Mathew's shirt-less backswing?

Good? Bad? could be better?

Way to stay on topic....

Good night all...

[Yoda]

What do you think about Mathew's shirt-less backswing?

I think he proved his point:

The spine goes where the spine goes.

And it goes just where he said it went, not through the right shoulder blade.