[6bmike]

IMO the right shoulder initiates a right forearm pickup.

Orr's video on it is really good.

Lot's of opinions on this I hate that neither side can appreciate the other. It's all good with me, whatever style you like, I appreciate both.

Homer said a left shoulder push is a pivot control of the hands but if you know how to recover and get back on plan, he is find with it. He even suggested that you try to do it as a drill so if you ever find yourself going off plane you don't have to stop or worry about it.

For me, I can't even do low and away anymore. My right arm takes the clubhead up, back and in on its merry way to start down. The Right Forearm Pick-Up Take-away is in my blood.

I shot the Orr video of the RFT at one of his workshops and agree that in the helm of kinesiology that the movement of the right arm is cause by the right shoulder moving. It is a right side take-away but the intent is for the right hand and forearm to move the club away. You don't need to know that the right shoulder moves- it will happen. The thought is of the hand taking the club up on Plane.

Homer said that the RFT comes closest to the the prefered swing circle need for precision. Sounds like the way to go to me.

As for the other guy who claims he teaches multiply stroke variations- he seems to miss the understanding of the term various.