Swingers sometimes employ a Lagging Clubhead Takeaway, where the handle starts back first. I would like to hear your take on this. This can clearly be seen in pictures of Hogan, and Nelson. They appear to use Single Wrist Action on the Takeaway in the pictures. They don't appear to have an obvious Turn, of the Left Wrist.
Swingers sometimes employ a Lagging Clubhead Takeaway, where the handle starts back first. I would like to hear your take on this. This can clearly be seen in pictures of Hogan, and Nelson. They appear to use Single Wrist Action on the Takeaway in the pictures. They don't appear to have an obvious Turn, of the Left Wrist.
What do you think?
I agree.
Just as the Finish Swivel provides the bridge between the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position / 8-11) and the Finish (8-12), so does the Backstroke Swivel (Standard Wrist Action / 10-18-A) provide the bridge between the end of the Start Up (8-4) and the Backstroke (8-5).
In both cases, the Left Wrist rotates -- Swivels -- from its Vertical condition to On Plane. Into the Backstroke, that rotation is 'palm down' to the Plane. Into the Finish, it is 'palm up.'
Just as the Finish Swivel provides the bridge between the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position / 8-11) and the Finish (8-12), so does the Backstroke Swivel (Standard Wrist Action / 10-18-A) provide the bridge between the end of the Start Up (8-4) and the Backstroke (8-5).
In both cases, the Left Wrist rotates -- Swivels -- from its Vertical condition to On Plane. Into the Backstroke, that rotation is 'palm down' to the Plane. Into the Finish, it is 'palm up.'
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Thanks Mr. Yoda!!! Do you have a FEEL for this... i.e. one one could easily sense. I know you said Palm Down to Palm UP. Any other sensations for the Feel of this. When I get IT, the feel is hard to describe. I can just sense the ROPE HANDLE and PULLING SENSATIONS. When it gets off... it seems the sweet spot and pressure points are out of whack.
Do you have a FEEL for this... i.e. one one could easily sense. I know you said Palm Down to Palm UP. Any other sensations for the Feel of this.
With my Head held Stationary, my Right Arm (via the Right Elbow) simply lifts and lowers my Left Arm as the Body Turns and my Arms Swing. My Right Forearm and Clubshaft Trace the Straight Plane Line away from the Ball, and my lightly-gripped Right Forefinger senses terrific Lag Pressure as I lead the Downstroke with my Pivot and take the entire Right Forearm-Clubshaft unit into Impact.
I feel no independent Hand Motion, either going back or coming through. But then...
With my Head held Stationary, my Right Arm (via the Right Elbow) simply lifts and lowers my Left Arm as the Body Turns and my Arms Swing. My Right Forearm and Clubshaft Trace the Straight Plane Line away from the Ball, and my lightly-gripped Right Forefinger senses terrific Lag Pressure as I lead the Downstroke with my Pivot and take the entire Right Forearm-Clubshaft unit into Impact.
I feel no independent Hand Motion, either going back or coming through. But then...
I have Educated Hands and do not Steer (3-F-7-A).
Hi Yoda,
Background:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from mine and the swinger’s point of view, the club head, shaft, right hand and forearm always travel at the same RPM from startup through impact as though bonded together in a cast. To some, the lagging takeaway procedure simply means that as the hands start, the club head remains motionless for a brief moment. To others, the Lagging club head takeaway is used to whip the club head past the hands during the backstroke (a technique taught by some West Coast Golf Gurus). The term has many meanings but inherrent in the concept is that the club head and hands are moving at different RPM. Maybe not all who use it.
When my hands turn in the backswing, extensor action does not change the relationship between my right forearm, hands, and club shaft and club head as it does in a hitting procedure (shaft becomes in-line with the left arm). Standard wrist action vs. Single wrist action.
To my point:
I agree that no change in feel occurs but only until the left wrist un-cocks during the sequenced release. After that, I do sense the roll of my hands before impact (and right wrist bending under stress). Furthermore, the more my brain expects that sensation the more forceful the horizontal hinge action becomes.
Daryl
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