Advice on Horizontal Hinging

[macgolf]

Guys, any tips or what "you think of" when doing this hinge. Do you think of turning your shoulder or back of hand after impact? When I thought of pointing my elbow down i had success with this. Is that a bad thought ? I have watched the alignment golf video a hundred times. When I do it slow I can produce it but when going into acquired motion I feel like im not executing it correctly.

thank-you.

Mac.

[macgolf]

I think I answered my own question. The feel must be in the shoulder because this is obviously the hinge point. Any roll of the forearm would be a swivel?

mac.

[BerntR]

You're right about the hinge pin.

Horizontal hinge typically happens with a much faster overtaking rate club vs hands. So I tend to empasize slow / quiet / passive hands. When I want something more towards vertical I drive my hands forward towards impact and past.

[KevCarter]

I think I answered my own question. The feel must be in the shoulder because this is obviously the hinge point. Any roll of the forearm would be a swivel?

mac.

MacGolf,

Great question. I get a little confused on this issue as well. I think you have it right. I know YODA has taught us that finish swivel is left forearm. Hopefully the guys will help us get this right on hinging... again.

Kevin

[JTillery]

Mac,
Remember that you're not executing "impact" as a swivel or finish swivel. The feel of a HH to me is always more of a snap release with the longest clubhead travel, where I would contest that you actually feel MORE active hands. All of that being said, your best chance of getting it right (imo) is to monitor the clubface through follow through waggles. Do a few waggles to two arms straight and check that the toe of the club is pointing down the target line. I actually have a club with a tee glued to the end that serves as a pointer. (This drill while left arm and club remain in rhythm is fantastic for steerers)
Anyway, the point is to train your hands what their role is........this will give you a feel that you can duplicate. While HH is a hinge pin mounted perpendicular to the ground and your left arm and club is serving as the blade.................please don't think about that when its time to hit a ball. Your hands have a job to do and because you're on an angled plane, to get that toe down the line its gonna feel like a pretty substantial roll. Show yourself a few times where your hands need to go, then let em go. I remember Ted Fort talking about this one day telling me "you ain't gonna believe how reckless its gotta feel"

Right on my brotha from another motha!!!

Go make the tips of your fingers tingle in some no club/no joined hands practice swings...

[KevCarter]

Mac,
Remember that you're not executing "impact" as a swivel or finish swivel. The feel of a HH to me is always more of a snap release with the longest clubhead travel, where I would contest that you actually feel MORE active hands. All of that being said, your best chance of getting it right (imo) is to monitor the clubface through follow through waggles. Do a few waggles to two arms straight and check that the toe of the club is pointing down the target line. I actually have a club with a tee glued to the end that serves as a pointer. (This drill while left arm and club remain in rhythm is fantastic for steerers)
Anyway, the point is to train your hands what their role is........this will give you a feel that you can duplicate. While HH is a hinge pin mounted perpendicular to the ground and your left arm and club is serving as the blade.................please don't think about that when its time to hit a ball. Your hands have a job to do and because you're on an angled plane, to get that toe down the line its gonna feel like a pretty substantial roll. Show yourself a few times where your hands need to go, then let em go. I remember Ted Fort talking about this one day telling me "you ain't gonna believe how reckless its gotta feel"

Right on my brotha from another motha!!!

Go make the tips of your fingers tingle in some no club/no joined hands practice swings...

Hall of fame post!

Thanks Man.

Are you prepared to roll on a line?

Kevin

[JTillery]

I think I answered my own question. The feel must be in the shoulder because this is obviously the hinge point. Any roll of the forearm would be a swivel?

mac.

A "feel" of roll when using HH would still just be a characteristic of its hinge motion. To remain in rhythm, the clubface, left wrist, left forearm would all have to obviously "swivel" or rotate to the golfers perspective some to get to that "toe down the line at two arms straight" follow through. From there, "finish swivel" is the bridge to get you to the finish.

[JTillery]

Hall of fame post!ll

Thanks Man.

Are you prepared to roll on a line?

Kevin

Haha...thanks Kev. Make sure you cut the guy off a little bit and raise your voice.

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"Y": AREYOUPREPAREDTO......ROLL!...ON... THAT.... LINE!!!!!!!!

That's what makes him great! No one knows it better and no ones more passionate about it!......... (and since he's not a big football fan, he has been given a very rare exemption off of my "I am forced to not like you because you're a tech fan" list which holds no exceptions )

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[macgolf]

Thank you J,
My problem was or is... sometimes my right hand gets under my left right after impact.(not flipping it but it gets under..thats another question) When studying the hinge actions I have no problem duplicating angled or vertical but struggle with horizontal. So I am trying to "feel" the proper feel. I will def try what you said. I feel like this should be so simple but its not.. for me at least.

Thanks again.
mac

[KevCarter]

Thank you J,
My problem was or is... sometimes my right hand gets under my left right after impact.(not flipping it but it gets under..thats another question) When studying the hinge actions I have no problem duplicating angled or vertical but struggle with horizontal. So I am trying to "feel" the proper feel. I will def try what you said. I feel like this should be so simple but its not.. for me at least.

Thanks again.
mac

IMO, What Mr. Tillery talked about is EXACTLY what you need for that problem. I have the same issue and it causes me to flip. I will be working on feeling reckless just as YodasLuke taught J.

Hopefully you also caught the reference to YODA's video ARE YOU PREPARED TO ROLL ON THAT LINE" and also another on finish swivel. Great stuff that will help you tremendously. If the left forarm doesn't roll with a flat left wrist, the club will overtake the hands in the manner we struggle with.

Kevin