no back in the upswing

[whip]

so i think this is an important point for tgmers especially, but also for any golfer in general.

for the club and hands to move on plane they must move back up and in instantly and simultaneously, but the arms have a given length and with extensor and a stationary head and without any pulling out from the arm sockets or shoulder joints the structure and WIDTH to the body will remain in tact. when we use extensor and lift the club up and in around the stationary post the clubhead and hands only incidentally went BACK as well as they incidentally go forward as the club moves down and out down plane. I think most golfers have a perceived instinct of power to move the body back and forth. The best drill i have found to date is the feet together drill which eliminates that feeling of back and forth. so yes there is back and forward in the golf swing but i think we would all play much better focusing more on the UP AND IN AND DOWN AND OUT and less on the back and forward. rft and extensor doesn't just mean going back back back on the plane line, that is NOT tracing, not extensor. get the club up off the ground and into the air WITH extensor WHICH GIVES YOU THE WIDTH, THE BACK without doing any added back reachy motion. In the downswing as well the hips and extensor carry the hands forward incidentally as they focused on going down and out DOWN plane. when you try and jam the hands forward, trying to jam forward lean over there or trace trace trace back back back along the ground wiiiide you are RUINING the circle and the geometry that you are trying to achieve. Turn around the post, lift the club up and in and send it down and out down plane to both arms straight. no back in the upswing

[O.B.Left]

Ive admired Lynns startup and backswing for some time now and have tried to make a study of it. Ive studied every post , every video he's produced. Every time I see him I tell him what Ive got..... Im closing in , maybe. Not sure. The man has more secrets than Wikilinks.

When Im finished Ill publish here. It'll touch on:

TGMs alignments combined with motion, momentum in short. TGM's Divergent Vectors, independent arm and pivot motion, EA , RFT , Lagging Takeaway etc combined with Wild Bill Melhourne's grass whipping, Bob MacDonald's Drills , the Bertholy method , Hogan , Nelson and a good dash of Billy Casper believe it or not . All this and more.

Ive got a video where he's standing on one leg hitting shots with this beautiful arm swing and takeaway. Hogan in Mexico beautiful!

P.S anybody familiar with Bob MacDonald's "inward bend" ? Id love a passage or two on that.

[whip]

just becareful of the grass whip, lagging clubhead takeaway, etc. that golf club and hands need to go UP not low along the ground

[O.B.Left]

just becareful of the grass whip, lagging clubhead takeaway, etc. that golf club and hands need to go UP not low along the ground

Yes agreed..... Arms Swing UP , Pivot turns IN. Divergent Vectors . No low down the line covering with aggregated "width" (left shoulder push away with the head swaying off the ball).

[KevCarter]

Like OB, I really enjoy watching Lynn's takeaway.

I can't remember where, but I saw a beautiful video explanation that seemed to mirror Lynn's action by Steve Elkington. He had a plane board, was setting up with the right forearm on plane, and was describing RFT. The right forearm stayed on the inclined plane, clearly moving in and up, until right forearm parallel to the ground. From there the right forearm moved more up while bending, but the right elbow never left the plane. Some gorgeous right forearm magic. I wish I could find that video again!

Kevin

[Etzwane]

Kevin, I think there was a sequence like that in his video on the short game, in case you bought it.

[KevCarter]

Kevin, I think there was a sequence like that in his video on the short game, in case you bought it.

Thank yo Etzwane!

[whip]

The hands go up and in instantly the pivot gets out of the way it doesn't do the the job on it's own, the forearm lifts UP instantly not back.
This is my whole point! the right forearm should not stay on the plane it's got to lift and bend off the plane instantly it doesn't stay on it while it moves back and then lifts, it goes UP and in from the very start!

[whip]

Like OB, I really enjoy watching Lynn's takeaway.

I can't remember where, but I saw a beautiful video explanation that seemed to mirror Lynn's action by Steve Elkington. He had a plane board, was setting up with the right forearm on plane, and was describing RFT. The right forearm stayed on the inclined plane, clearly moving in and up, until right forearm parallel to the ground. From there the right forearm moved more up while bending, but the right elbow never left the plane. Some gorgeous right forearm magic. I wish I could find that video again!

Kevin

keV , that ain't right forearm magic if it was done as you described, this is a crucial aspect of the golf swing if you misunderstand you're missing the geometry and the action

[innercityteacher]

The hands go up and in instantly the pivot gets out of the way it doesn't do the the job on it's own, the forearm lifts UP instantly not back.
This is my whole point! the right forearm should not stay on the plane it's got to lift and bend off the plane instantly it doesn't stay on it while it moves back and then lifts, it goes UP and in from the very start!

I'm sure the "Right-sided Swing " guys have a few tattered copies of TGM on their desks and at the computer monitors. Like the Hitting motion taught by TGM, TRSS emphasizes the Right Arm. However, TRSS emphasizes a "K" set-up position that is like Impact Fix to the extreme! Right arm straight pick-up, elbow stays close bends, then a bump, then extend the right elbow.

Here is a video, or two or so.

http://youtu.be/bnIi5O7kzW8

http://youtu.be/cops580TR1o

http://youtu.be/bTtEHWEZRrs

This is just an exaggerated hitting motion I believe. Feedback?