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Mr. Yoda,

One clatification of that.

Doesn't the book say that you maintain a "stressed shaft" through the impact interval.

When I read that I envisioned the shaft being stressed at start of downsing, and didnt straighten up again till the ball is hit. The c-bening of the shaft seems counter to that, or my understanding of it.

Perhaps thats a part of the confusion?

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 81719)

Not at all Wedgy. You want me to read a 220 document which supposedly supports your point of view because you have NOOO clue what you're talking about. You're an idiot.

Your funny, ya i want you to read it and learn how wrong you are, there is no lagging clubhead in the impact interval, ever.

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 81722)

Well I keep learning things. Even this discussion was good. Thanks to all.

Forward shaft bend , lagging clubhead......who knew?

Anyone who reads the Book should know.

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Originally Posted by wedgy (Post 81724)

Your funny, ya i want you to read it and learn how wrong you are, there is no lagging clubhead in the impact interval, ever.

Clubhead lagging what exactly? The hands? That is Homers consideration. I sense your talking clubhead lagging the mid section of the shaft.....something else entirely. ( Ya I know, new found perspective is so ...... applicable everywhere)

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Originally Posted by wedgy (Post 81724)

Your funny, ya i want you to read it and learn how wrong you are, there is no lagging clubhead in the impact interval, ever.

Wedgy, people like you make me sick. You misread a so-called scientific research paper and you have no clue what's being said. You believe you understand something, then go around to websites and tell everyone that they're wrong. Dweeb.

Yoda,
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I really think you ought to consider a password protected section of the forum or limit newbies like Wedgy to one or two sections until they show some interest in something other than creating a pissing contest.

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 81726)

Anyone who reads the Book should know.

OUCH. Are you mad at me? What I do?

Correcting Concepts

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Originally Posted by chipingguru (Post 81723)

The Shaft remains stressed. It is RESPONDING to Clubhead (Sweetspot) Lag Pressure Point Pressure. It is NOT creating it!

Your understanding was incorrect, but don't be too hard on yourself. the forward-bending concept is very counter-intuitive, both intellectually and in its Feel (Lag Pressure Point Pressure). Power Golf (Ben Hogan / 1948 ) made the "C" Shaft Bend at Impact obvious to all. (Although, for years, the photos were explained as an "illusion". Homer Kelley explained to me in January 1982 exactly what was going on.)

The Clubshaft manufacturers would have us believe that all this "kick" stuff is the product of their wonderful product. The truth is that the Clubshaft responds exactly today as it did 100 years ago. The materials are sturdier and more consistent, but the response to Centrifugal Reaction is the same.

:salut:

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 81730)

The Shaft remains stressed. It is RESPONDING to Clubhead (Sweetspot) Lag Pressure Point Pressure. It is NOT creating it!

Your "understanding" was incorrect, but don't be hard on yourself. the forward-bending concept is VERY counter-intuitive, both intellectually and in its Feel (Lag Pressure Point Pressure). Power Golf (Ben Hogan / 1948 ) made the "C" Shaft Bend at Impact obvious to all. (Although, for years, the photos were explained as an "illusion". Homer Kelley explained to me in January 1982 exactly what was going on.)

The Clubshaft manufacturers would have us believe that all this "kick" stuff is the product of their wonderful product. The truth is that the Clubshaft responds exactly today as it did 100 years ago. The materials may be sturdier and more consistent, but the response to Centrifugal Reaction is the same.

:salut:

So the shaft remains stressed despite the fact it bends forward, so long as the clubhead lags the hands? Is that correct? I dunno. I just feel it my finger.....and direct it.

Sweetspot Lag Creates Clubshaft Stress . . . In Several Directions

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 81733)

So the shaft remains stressed despite the fact it bends forward, so long as the clubhead lags the hands? Is that correct?

There obviously can be exceptions, but in the sense I know you mean it, the answer is yes.

But more correctly, it is the Sweetspot that lags, not Clubhead as a whole. The Sweetspot can be well up the Clubface, particularly in the deeper-faced Short Irons, and that Lag supercedes the overall Clubhead.

:salut: