I hate wasting my time on non-value added things...so, I will comment on Grante Waite....he looks TGM influenced even at that point in the swing...clubshaft parallel to the planeline...it looks solid.

BTW, the two students of Tomasello that I have seen swing a club are Jodie Mudd and Mark Evershed....no standard hip-action there...RFT.

DG

As of last year, Grant said he uses a shoulder turn takeaway and thus a double shift.

Sure...Pivot Controlled Hands versus Hand Controlled Pivot...

I use a hybrid that is made up of the shoulder turn takeaway and the right forearm pickup.

I use the shoulder turn takeaway to initially move the club off the ball while still tracing a straight plane line. This is only the first few feet. Once i know i'm either on plane or even SLIGHTLY (very slightly) inside (my problem is an outside takeaway thus what i do above) i then simply fold my right elbow and keep rotating my shoulders and maintain extensor action until the backswing is finished.

This is the takeaway that ALLOWS ME to make a very good backswing. If i strictly use a shoulder turn takeaway my plane line shifts way out to the right (good for hitting a draw). If i strictly use a right forearm pickup (while swinging not hitting) i have a tendency to take it to the outside and i get a pull.

It's all about options :)

Jim,

What Delivery Path are you using?

DG

Annikan,

Your efforts are not wasted on me. A great start to the question. I'll work on the resizing when I get a chance, but I think the photos get the main point across.
There are many, many great swings that can be categorized regardless of chronology and well worth the effort. There are some great takeaways from the "Bobby's".
Drag'in the line...

Be nice guys or Yoda will Lock this Thread..........=;

LOL...don't know. Maybe brian would know haha.

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Tom made a tape around 1988 or so, where he is wearing shorts. I think this is the version that Annikan is talking about. "Turn the right hip back, while keeping the right knee flexed." "Right hip, right arm; right arm , left hip... face the target." He later made the Australian tape,with Peter Croker on there, that has a little different information...this is what D.G. is talking about. In his Advanced Schools, Tom would cover some Variations.

Excellent pictures Annikan!!!! There are obviously numerous ways to take it BACK, and still get on plane on the downswing.

Now... for the guys using Shoulder Turn Takeaway. Are they using Flat, or Rotated?

I have also noticed another version. Kirk Triplett, Jay Haas, and Johnny Miller all APPEAR to have somewhat of a Hands Plane Version, but a little different. It seems to work pretty well for them. Any ideas on this?

Lagster,
Thank you for your clarification...Here are more pics...;)