There's a free video on www.brianmanzella.com that shows brian demonstrating the right forearm pickup among other things.

It ISN'T the pay videos, do a small search and i believe it is the flat left wrist video

The file name is segment1bw.wmv and he demonstrates it around the 8:46 mark. Hope that helps.

http://www.manzellagolfforum.com/for...?TOPIC_ID=1735

There's the thread where has the link

The teaching clip wouldn't play completely but there is also a video of his swing and the frames are provided in the post on 'Brian's Swing Sequence frames' under video and swing sequences. One observation, the right elbow doesn't move laterally in the RF pickup.

Is he a Swinger?

DRW

Brian can do both but he is better when he hits.

I just played the clip again and it worked fine for me.

Left Arm Push Away
 

My "habitual" stroke pattern is to take the the club back (and up) with my left arm. I have better balance, it keeps me from swaying or dipping my left shoulder, my left wrist remains flat and I usually stop at the top or end. I also feel like it helps me to let my right side take over, make a motion through the ball to the finish. I have extensor action but is probably reversed. I have the Right Forearm Pickup as a skill and "can" hit some decent shots but I can not get it into a habit. If Carey is listening, I can not automatically get my right forearm to initiate the start up. When I am warming up, making a practice stroke, or swinging a weighted club, and I have no intention making an actual stroke...my left arm always initiates the startup.

Is the Right Forearm Pickup or Twistaway really important to TGM or can I skin my cat with a left arm start up? My game and swing has improved immeasurably since being exposed to TGM (last Oct) but I have hit the RFP wall.

Thanks much.

PChandler

Lynn likes to teach the RFP and brian feels it is an option but not the only option.

He just posted another video short describing his modified shoulder turn takeaway and the right forearm pickup. I'd highly advise you watching and learning the difference and you'll have a lot of fog lifted.

I don't use a RFP and i do just fine :)

Can you use a little help fromt he left wrist when doing RFP? I found that I apply a push from my left wrist and then RFP fanning and up easier, and also keep my left shoulder from moving out. Also avoid when doing RFP I have a tendency to move the club slightly back first.

Hey Daryti

This may be a contentious issue, but for me anyways, I do have a little push with the left hand or so it seems. BUT ITS A PUSH AGAINST THE #2 PRESSURE POINT in the Heel of the left hand and associated with Left Hand Wrist Cock which is a result of the Pick UP, Right Elbow Bending. NOT A PUSH AWAY OR PUSH BACK OF THE CLUB WITH THE LEFT HAND OR ARM. This maybe goes against the grain of the Left Arm as a piece of string, I know.

If the RFT is divided into a separate Fanning and a Bending at the elbow (pickup) motions then this pressure or perhaps pushing at the PP#2 is done in concert with the Bending only. But if the Fanning and Bending overlap each other as they should then this pressure at the PP#2 is felt very early in the RFT.

Another contentious thing perhaps, but one I like anyways is that RFT doesnt necessarily preclude the pivot or the Right Hip from starting the entire chain of events. This is great for a person employing a swing away as it establishes CF right off the start. A "free wheeling" swing back that for me goes nicely with a Lagging Takeaway on full shots. I personally like to feel that the Pivot or Right Hip gets the club moving back the first couple of inches. Is this Pivot to Hands? I say no! Not if I then employ an RFT (fanning and pickup) and Trace a Straight Line Base Line. Pivot to Hands would have the Hands following the Shoulders in their direction," always under plane". I have the Hands and Shoulders going their separate ways.

This is just me however, you could pre clear the Right Hip and then use a "carry back" with the RFT, but I like to set up a little CF early on even though Im mainly Hitting these days.

"The body is a rotor, the arms are it's blades" and so ideally for a golfing machine anyways you must turn the Rotor to turn the Blades. CF.

Daryti,

Please don't take my "feel" as truth, but I am curious to hear O.B.'s thoughts on what I "feel."

I have become a hitter as well, and really believe in and strive for the Magic Of The Right Forearm and educated hands controlling my swing...

I have found that I need the backstroke and cocking of the left hand to be totally controlled by my right elbow. If I try to add a little more wrist cock with my left wrist, my right hand cocks along with it rather than bending as Homer Kelley taught us. :nono:

My left wrist definitely doesn't set as much as it used to using this method. Am I working along the proper lines, or am I costing myself some speed by not using #2 to it's fullest?

Thanks,
Kevin