Hogan vs. Tiger
 

Matthew,

I don't dispute your math. Longer shots on the same angle off line miss the target by more distance. Simple right? Watch the Hogan vs. Snead Shell match at Houston CC. Balls are not just catching the fairway. Hogan is curving the ball so it stays in the center of the fairway as the hole doglegs. "Fit to fairway like hand to glove." This where math gets lost. If the ball is not deflected from the target line, the distance does not factor.

Mikey . .. Just WHAT are you doing to that chicken????

Actually the edit was accidental - I thought I was quoting myself in reference to something but was actually editing the post.

Your maths is not your strong point and is flawed.

Basically you did this sum 300yards-250yards=50yards/15

You tell me what a 15th of the difference between their driving distance is meant to show. I can tell you for certain as someone who is semi-reasonable at maths that it doesn't show anything relating to the mathematical problem at hand.

Really? - Then let me ask you, why did you take the time to write a post that was obviously just going to get lambasted and cause the thread to get jacked further.

Your complete analysis was hideous yes but it was the confidence within your ignorance that I took note with. A tip from experience - if you don't know that something is right - don't post it, unless you wish to ask about it.

Thats not arrogance - Most 15 year olds have these problems all the time at school and is elementary stuff. It is finding the angle of an arc created from the chord (fairway) of a circle in relation to the radius (driving distance) - its hardly like we're trying to solve Fermat's last theorem here....

Wow, isn't this a funny contradiction, not only have you actually done an Ad Hominem you also have created another logical fallacy strawman by saying that I have done an Ad Hominem.

You see (educating you again) - this would be an ad hominem

Darius - states arguement A
Mathew says - your a idiot so therefore you say is just stupid and just naturally be completely incorrect...

What I did was not an ad hominem because an ad hominem is attacking the other persons character to destroy their arguement without having any refutation. I posted the correct mathematical answers and ultimately I stated an arguement .. the fact I put a few remarks that you found insolent doesn't make it an ad Hominem. An insult and an ad Hominem are two different things.

In the process you created a strawman arguement that I was doing an ad hominem.

However you haven't stated an arguement and wish to destroy the validity of my arguement by ad hominems.

Its like a nightmare isn't it..... but its all of your own doing as your initial intention with your post was far more sinister than my out and out refutation of your post. I don't stab people in the back - if I have a problem with a post then I say and I don't hold no punches.... thats just me. I might get critised for it and I could be more PC at times - something I try to work on.

I wrote an innocent enough statement saying that I believe Tiger is better than Hogan and that if he was only hitting the ball 250 yards he would be as accurate... anyone with sence can see there is so many factors but no no no, you came marching on telling me I was wrong and how I was incorrect and the maths does matter. Your intention was to make me sound stupid - which is always a bad thing to try to do with anyone. Unfortunately you just happened to pick on someone that can defend themselves and actually can do the maths properly. Your the bully, so stop trying to paint yourself as the victim.

This is getting wearisome. :(

How can you possibly say that.

Lets look at this in chronological order :

I make an innocent enough comment on my beliefs that Tiger Woods is as good a ballstriker as Hogan if not better.

He starts this whole line and writes in a style that is designed to get a rise out of someone. The manner in which attacks my statement in an obvious attempt to belittle me. You did not edit it which is fine because it doesn't cross the line into personal insults.

I then tell him that maths is not his strong point. Ok I admit I am guilty of being goaded into responding however not one of the comments attacks him as a personal insult. I attack his mathematical abilities and how silly I found his arguement. Not one single personal insult towards him as a person.

He attacks me personally in a totally transparent manner. Now the line should of been crossed. A post that has no purpose other than to try and annoy me and stir - one you should of deleted the moment you saw it... you did nothing about it.

I respond again in a very strongly defensive but collected manner pointing out his hypocrasy, his strawman arguement, his ad Hominems, his personal insults and what his intentions really are. He really is the bully that is acting the victim here... Not one of my responces attacks him personally at least in a direct non-figurative manner.

I emplore you to find one insult which attacks him as a person directly. Sure I attacked his maths skills, sure I said his arguements are absurd, sure I was a lil harsh but you show me one personal insult - just one.

I am more restrained than the other person and if your not going to delete his personal attacks your leaving me no option.

Ive been trying to respond without crossing that line which he broke.

Let me ask you - why are you defending him ?

Actually I want you to delete the two last posts but while his personal attacks remain - so will my refutation because im not prepared to be talked to like that by anyone.

Nice try! Trying to get me banned from the forum for answering that one! :naughty:

childrens games....
 

A simple game of hangman....

T__R_AD JACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

already tried B, C, D, F, G, I, J, K, L, M, N, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z.....

"you do the math!!!!"

BACK ON TOPIC....

Post pictures of better post impact alignments or set up a seperate thread for your debates about driver accuracy across 2 generations using completely different equipment....an no this last statement is not an invitation for people to answer on this thread...see it merely as a start for your own thread!

Man...i can't find a better picture in my data base. :crybaby: But what do you think if he was not in the bunker? Do you think that the clubhead will catch up the left hand a bit?

I'm not defending anyone, but here's what is bothering me.
This forum exists to promote Lynn and his teaching business, so as a Sr. Member and someone who knows Lynn personally, I hold you to a slightly higher standard of behavior than our newest members.

Your contributions, insights, and dialog with members over the years have been excellent, but something has made a turn for the worse this year and I'm patiently waiting and hoping for it to turn back around.

Because of your contenteous behavior, you are turning off and even running new members off of this site, which is in opposition to our purpose here.

So when I say I'm getting weary and sad, this is why. I want the best from you and for you.

Hmm....maybe check your Avatar!:laughing9 Looking pretty good!!

I think that the bunker has exaggerated the look a little but the way the right arm moves through impact looks more "natural" than Tiger's practice swing when he does a right arm move beyond impact which seems to mimic Hogan?