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Yoda 01-04-2006 08:12 PM

Lengthening the 'Trail' Arm Through Impact
 
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Originally Posted by mb6606

Weir does not set up as with the left forearm in line with the shaft. At impact it is inline. Does he not have to make some sort of club face manipulation to be correct at impact?

It is Axis Tilt (accomplished with Hip Slide in the Start Down) -- not Clubface Manipulation -- that brings the 'Trail' Shoulder down and On Plane. In turn, it is this On Plane Trail Shoulder that gives the player sufficient 'Trail' Arm, i.e., Elbow Bend, to manifest an On Plane Trail Forearm at Impact. So, for the Trail Arm to be On Plane at Address, there must be Axis Tilt. In his book, Power Golf, Ben Hogan had this to say:

"At the address there is no straightening of the right elbow. In order that the right arm will be limp and the right elbow down, one must list slightly from the right side. By list I meant that the right shoulder must be dropped and the hips faced slightly to the left."

We are saying the same thing: In order that there be sufficient Elbow Bend for an On Plane Trail Forearm, the Shoulder must be down and back (On Plane). And that is a function of the Hip Turn (assuming a Slide and its Weight Shift). That is why you see all good players with their trail Forearms On Plane through Impact, even though those same Forearms may not have been On Plane at Address.

By the way, isn't is nice that we have a TGM language where everybody understands that Right Forearm means 'trail' Forearm? :)

I could barely type the words!

wolfman 01-05-2006 06:20 PM

Where are the pictures?
 
Did something happen to the pictures, or is it my computer?

annikan skywalker 01-05-2006 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfman
Did something happen to the pictures, or is it my computer?

Here you go...

alex_chung 01-05-2006 06:53 PM

I can't see the pics either. Strange.
Alex

bray 01-06-2006 08:54 AM

Appleby at Mercede's
 
The tour's model hitter, sure hit it good last night at the Mercede's. One thing I noticed he uses a lot more of a vertical hinge action on short wedge shots.

Sorting Through the Duffer's Bible.

B-Ray

YodasLuke 01-06-2006 11:11 AM

vert. hinging
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bray
The tour's model hitter, sure hit it good last night at the Mercede's. One thing I noticed he uses a lot more of a vertical hinge action on short wedge shots.

Sorting Through the Duffer's Bible.

B-Ray

The conditions on Tour tend to require it: high rough, tucked flags, hard greens, and fast greens. Throw a little horizontal hinge action on one and a spectator might have to stop it.

Matt 01-06-2006 03:39 PM

I definitely saw some short shots by Appleby at the Mercedes that bordered on vertical hinging. I have always really liked Appleby's stroke because of his great alignments. Anybody know why he isn't winning more on tour? Is his short game holding him back?

I also saw him at the 2004 PGA Championship at Whistling Straits. I remember he was in a fairway bunker on the front nine and was agitated about the high lip. He had maybe a dozen spectators around him, including myself. He hit it, it clipped the lip, somehow got out into the fairway, and ran up to about 15 feet. Crowd goes wild. It was about 2 inches from staying in the bunker, that's for sure. Hope he has a good season this year.

ldeit 01-07-2006 12:44 AM

as,

I also can not see the pictures. I was able to do so before.

ldeit

galopin 01-07-2006 12:57 PM

Annikan, Yoda, Ted:

Why do you guys believe that Appleby is a Hitter and not a Swinger who Paddlewheels? It looks like he uses 10-5-A and has the body rotation of a Swinger.

YodasLuke 01-07-2006 01:43 PM

Appleby, hitter or swinger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by galopin
Annikan, Yoda, Ted:

Why do you guys believe that Appleby is a Hitter and not a Swinger who Paddlewheels? It looks like he uses 10-5-A and has the body rotation of a Swinger.

10-5-A is recommended for hitting as found in 12-1-0. He's using 10-10-C (angled hinging), which is also recommended for hitting but does not solely differentiate whether or not he's hitting. As far as 10-19-A (drive loading/hitting) versus 10-19-C (drag loading/swinging), you'd have to ask him. He's using 10-3-A (punch) instead of 10-3-B (pitch). His assembly point is 10-21-A (top) instead of 10-21-C (end). And he's using 10-22-B (random sweep) instead of 10-22-C (snap). His power package delivery path is 10-23-A (straight line) instead of 10-23-C (top arc and straight line).
If he's not hitting, he certainly missed a good opportunity. :)
See 6-H-0 and 7-19.


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