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scottc 07-30-2008 03:35 PM

Is TGM book too difficult?
 
I've heard the book is complicated and difficult to understand without further certification or instruction. I'm a 2 handicap and think I have a fairly good understanding of the swing. Will I be able to get much out of the book, or should I not confuse myself with it and just find a TGM teacher instead?

detonum 07-30-2008 04:23 PM

I wouldn't say TGM will confuse you, I would say that once you study it, the golf swing won't confuse you as much anymore. If you only want to play better, than an A.I. will guide you the TGM way. But I find that the information from TGM has been more than invaluable to my G.O.L.F. game. One thing is for sure: studying TGM won't hurt.

okie 07-30-2008 05:03 PM

All of the above!
 
All of the above! Homer suggested that you solicit the expertise of an authorized instructor. The center of gravity is now in Cuscowilla GA! I have NOT created the oppurtunity to work with an AI, but I have benefitted immensely from this website and its colorful and competent medley of characters. There is no substiture for you wrestling with the concepts and precepts of TGM. Some people don't need to know...they just do...until they don't! You don't need to know all 144 variations neccessarily, but it is useful thing to know those that pertain to your golf stroke. So study the book, understand the book with the help of LBG, apply what you understand with the help of an AI.

6bmike 07-31-2008 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottc (Post 54787)
I've heard the book is complicated and difficult to understand without further certification or instruction. I'm a 2 handicap and think I have a fairly good understanding of the swing. Will I be able to get much out of the book, or should I not confuse myself with it and just find a TGM teacher instead?

The book ALONE will be a tough nut to understanding especially if you know something about the swing because a few old truths will no longer apply.
You will do better viewing the excellent videos in the gallery to aid visual support and read archived posts to help answer your first round of questions.

Enjoy the journey.

strav 07-31-2008 07:56 AM

Is TGM book too difficult?

Of course. Otherwise there would be no need for this forum.
TGM needs to be rendered user friendly and perhaps Yoda's promised DVDs will go some way to rectifying this.

okie 07-31-2008 08:48 AM

Fire!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by strav (Post 54822)
Is TGM book too difficult?

Of course. Otherwise there would be no need for this forum.
TGM needs to be rendered user friendly and perhaps Yoda's promised DVDs will go some way to rectifying this.


TGM is a wood burning stove...not a microwave! One plank at a time! If people follow HK's recommendations i.e. the short course, they would be OK.

12 piece bucket 07-31-2008 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okie (Post 54824)
TGM is a wood burning stove...not a microwave! One plank at a time! If people follow HK's recommendations i.e. the short course, they would be OK.

Mikey operates on this theory as well . . . it's just limbs that go in the stove . . . and not tree limbs.

KAPLOWD 07-31-2008 09:49 AM

Until I stumbled upon this site, TGM was a complete mystery; and I've had the book since the mid 90's. Must have gone through it dozens of times, but just kept on scratching my head. What the heck is going on hear? Well now I've got a very good idea as to what components work for me.

The gallery is fantastic. The video of Yoda teaching Vickie Lake is one of the best silent movies, I've ever seen. It's speaks worlds for practicing basic motion with proper imperatives.

Sand. Well I love going to the beach and swiming int the Ocean, but if I got up and down from a bunker once a month that was alot. Now thanks to "Yoda in Arabia", it might be once around, i.e. if I'm even in a bunker. Vertical hinges and finish swivel while the ball is placed at low point. Now that really explains how to use the tool correctly !!!

A thanks to Yoda and all those who have made this such and excellent site. :)

Bagger Lance 08-03-2008 09:33 PM

Back at you - Thanks for the post kaplowd

Its always nice to hear our efforts here are helping.
Its motivating.

hg 08-04-2008 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 54813)
The book ALONE will be a tough nut to understanding especially if you know something about the swing because a few old truths will no longer apply.
You will do better viewing the excellent videos in the gallery to aid visual support and read archived posts to help answer your first round of questions.

Enjoy the journey.



6b
Can you name of few of the "old truths" that TGM/Homer dispelled for you.:)

nuke99 08-16-2008 11:40 PM

TGM have alot of great concepts.

And No , can't learn a complete swing from scratch just by reading the book. Its meant to be taught demonstrated by Authorised instructors. And some of the concepts served better by watching the TGM videos and freebies.

The extreme difficulty and knowledge required is to APPLY, This comes from someone who attempt to study this book . maybe close to 2 years?..Even heard that only a rare few in the circle really knows how to apply...

The most important to understand, there is NO one perfect swing for anybody. And when you thought you know it, you actually don't, at least thats how I feel.

just my 2 cents.

purehitter 08-17-2008 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuke99 (Post 55202)
TGM have alot of great concepts.

And No , can't learn a complete swing from scratch just by reading the book. Its meant to be taught demonstrated by Authorised instructors. And some of the concepts served better by watching the TGM videos and freebies.

The extreme difficulty and knowledge required is to APPLY, This comes from someone who attempt to study this book . maybe close to 2 years?..Even heard that only a rare few in the circle really knows how to apply...

The most important to understand, there is NO one perfect swing for anybody. And when you thought you know it, you actually don't, at least thats how I feel.

just my 2 cents.

When you start learning the language of TGM it becomes easy to understand the book. Learn the TGM language and it will unlock the mystery of the book.

nuke99 08-17-2008 03:39 AM

I know the codes and the language. 2 yrs on it. Given tons of clues. Saw video DVD here and there..

But Applying the secrets is entirely another matter. Because the book is firstly highly subjected to interpretation. The knowledge and basics of that individual golfer.

Maybe 24 components alone millions combination . Not forgetting the Degree in Each combination, Player's preference. Nope, I don't think as average as I am I am able to break the secret . Its a million in one chance.


Need to go to one of the school to progress.

bts 08-17-2008 04:12 AM

Get it or not?
 
How long does it take for the rest of us, if someone like Mr. Kelley who spent 26 years?:salut:

purehitter 08-17-2008 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bts (Post 55210)
How long does it take for the rest of us, if someone like Mr. Kelley who spent 26 years?:salut:

It took Homer most of his life to provide the information for us. You need to read the book many times. I read from the book every day. You do not need to memorize it but to be able to look up information you want to use and teach and understand it. How long it takes is up to you. You will only get out of it what you put into it. You can always take a lesson with an AI and just study the book.

golfgnome 08-17-2008 06:29 PM

3+3=wow
 
When I started with TGM I was fortunate to be introduced by a couple of GSEDs, Danny Elkins and Chuck Evans. Along the way I have met many successful instructors, some are TGM and some are not. Along with Danny and Chuck I have been able to observe many TGM instructors such as Chris Asbell, Lynn, Ted, Ron Gring, Tom Stickney, Martin Hall, VJ Trolio, Mark Blackburn, and many, many, more.

The reason I bring up the "name drops" is not to show how many teachers I know, but how similar they all teach. I have found that if you teach the 3 Imperatives AND the 3 Essentials, TGM is a wonderful reference guide for teachers to use. However, many "disciples" try to create the "perfect pattern" based on swinging or hitting and this is where frustration and confusion sets in. In my opinion, Homer did not care how you swung a golf club as long as the components were compatible. He gave us a wonderful "owner's manual" so we could figure out why we played poorly but also why we played so well.

I try very hard to convey to my students that they must control the CLUBHEAD, CLUBFACE, and CLUBSHAFT while maintaining Rhythm and Balance. A steady head is a great way to do this.

Learning TGM is much like learning the Rules of Golf, most understand the basics, a few know how to use the book, fewer still can use the decisions book, and a rare individual can recite it with page numbers. Learn the 3 Imperatives and 3 Essentials and apply them to your game and the "WOW" factor will hit you. After that, think of it as a journey not a race. The best way to learn is through self awareness and TGM will give you plenty of info to do this.

In the words of Homer himself "Happy Golfing".

The Gnome

okie 08-18-2008 09:54 AM

Me Likey!
 
they must control the CLUBHEAD, CLUBFACE, and CLUBSHAFT while maintaining Rhythm and Balance.


BINGO!:salut:


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