Fragments of truth
 

Given the antics of Mike O and he who shall remain nameless, as well as the subsequent corruption of Augusta Golf this is not the most innane question ever asked. One of my pet projects now is to look for places where the great players and teachers of the past have elluded to what Homer codified for us. For instance, extensor action. You have just gotta have it...so how did the great ones describe it? Jack Nicklaus said that he felt like he tried to pierce the clouds with his hands i.e. high hands. Of course it being a description of a personal feel it is not much use to us, although understanding the description in the light of TGM helps! Once you understand the mechanics I feel like their feel descriptions have real merit. Does anyone know where else EA has been elluded to?

how about "widest possible arc on the takeaway"
and "keep your hands as far from your head or shoulder as possible"
i guess there could be some form of EA in those "gems" lol

Don't forget to keep your hands as close to your wrists as possible at all times.

I asked Yoda this same question. Off the top of his head (Yoda has an amazing grasp of the derivation or "family tree" of golf knowledge)
he mentioned;

Robert MacDonald, Golf 1927.

Percy Boomer, On Learning Golf, 1946.

And provided a doff of the hat to Seymour Dunn, Golf Fundamentals, 1922. With the caveat that he attributed the straight left arm to the LEFT arm triceps.

During a similar sort of conversation he traced Big Jack's rolled over left foot back to pre Roman Scotland. Gotta love it. He must have one heck of a golf library.

O.B.

I still blame Nicklaus for my swing faults! Early on, when I first began to take my golf seriously, I read Nicklaus books. On his recommendations for getting as wide an arc as possible, I started stretching my left arm as far as I could on my backswing, you know, a "reach for the sky" thing. Well . . . now I fight swaying and standing up on my backswing. After a little over a year with TGM and the McDonald exercises, I am starting to work on EA to get that extension. It makes all the difference, at least in understanding what I am supposed to do, to think of it as the right arm trying to straighten rather than simply reaching for the sky.

Nicklaus is one of the biggest icons that has wrecked a heap load of golf swings. Worked for him, but oh how the amateur player still pays the price!

Redeeming the Flim-flam
 

This is what I am attempting to reconcile (why is a mystery to me also!) Nicklaus no doubt employed extensor action, right? Using TGM as The Lexicon, how can we better understand their individual feel descriptions. Now that I have a basic grasp of extensor action I better understand Nicklaus' description. Looking at his flying wedges, especially at end suggests great structure...without EA there is no air in the hose...lead in the pencil...jam in the donut...etc. I thought Joe Norwood may have understood EA. It seems that he believed that you had to train the left arm to extend itself, but he did understand the importance of maintaining The Radius i.e. max extension. The genius of EA is that the left arm is extended as opposed to the left arm extending! :eyes: I believe EA is just one of the things when properly applied can produce IMMEDIATE results as opposed to "giving it 6 months." This is one of the things that sets TGM apart.

Heard Annika say that her main swing thought was to keep her right arm straight throughout the swing. Obviously it cant due to the left arms checkrein action. But that was her feel for extensor action and it obviously worked well.

Annika's Bent Right Arm
 

Thanks for this quote, Daz. This is the essence of Extensor Action: While maintaining the Clubshaft On Plane, the right arm tries to stay straight, but can't!

The 'proof is in the pudding':

Since Annika's right arm/Elbow is very definitely bent at the Top of her Stroke, it must be the result of the Straight Left Arm's Checkrein Action (6-B-1-D) despite her Bent Right Arm's attempt to stay straight.

:salut:

Posts Projections
 

Lynn,
Using precise calculating methods over the last day I have determined that on November 1, 2009 you'll reach 11,745 posts. However, being a computer wiz :confused1, I have accessed the code to this forum and the maximum allowed all time posting number is currently 10,000! You better get BamBam off his ...., before you hit the ceiling on July 9th, 2009!

Mike, using a Fisher-Price calculator does not quantify "Using precise calculating methods"!!! Just kidding, please don't ban me from Mike O's Golf Emporium and Forum.

Why?
 

Why do you only work with Wedges and Woods? Something against the iron game? What's a wood? I'd like to get to the bottom of the bucket on these issues (OK, that was bad but it's the best I got right now! Leave me alone!). I'll look up where you work - I'd like to put this Fisher Price Calculator up...... Whoa! Stop! Where is my medication!!!

Resting on our Laurels after 7000 posts?
 

Where is the "catchy" Title to this post :( ?

Something like:

Stretching the Truth, or Getting a New Leash on Life, or Your Pulling My left Arm, or Pull My Thumb (one for Bucket), or Lending a Helping Hand...

Writing makes a precise man :) . I once heard someone say.

Yet more proof that amphetamines and Irish whiskey are not a substitute for breakfast.:naughty:

But you see......... THEY DO!!!!!:shock: :shock: :headbang:

Nice Example
 

Thanks for this...it is what I am looking for. I am disappointed that Annika did not use the ONLY term out there for this "feeling" seeings that Pia knows it!

The Force is Still with You
 

After reading your recent posts, I withdraw my feeble attempt at humor. Carry on :salut: .

Confused in Oklahoma
 

Who you talking to Drewit?

Title Wave
 

The first post was for Yoda. I always enjoy the tag lines or titles he puts on all his post. Those alone are worth the price admission. However, he left one post without a title :confused1 . So...I thought I would help him out.

Or..maybe I was just talking to myself again :eyes: . Mike O put something in my diet Pepsi and haven't been right since :eyes: .

Verrrrrrrry nice!

Oh boy date rape drug?

I Luv Ya, Man!
 

Drew,

Thanks for holding my green feet to the fire.

You're the best!

:golf:

P.S. I have edited my Post #9 in this thread to add a title: Annika's Bent Right Arm. Since you have already taken all the 'good ones', it was the best I could do!

MummyMeister
 

Remember, Mike, it is YOU who is responsible for all this!

"My God, what have I unearthed."

Mike O
Circa April 2004