Magic of the right forearm - Definition
 

I have seen this term "magic of the right forearm" used frequently.

Does it have a precise definition or is it a vague term that people use to describe different right forearm actions/functions?

In particular, is the term related to the right forearm's directional movement in the backswing and/or downswing and/or only pre-impact?

Jeff.

Illusion of magic from a garage!! plenty world class players without right forearm on plane. Well yeah on plane to what ? which plane ? what about airplane that could work

Jeff,

Study 7-3 Strokes-Basic to acquaint yourself with the MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM.

Burner

I have studied 7:3 and I can idenitify two important facts re: the right forearm.

Fact 1

Top of the backswing - the right forearm is positioned perpendicular to the "on plane loading of the primary lever assembly" in hitters and the "on plane loading of the secondary lever assembly" in swingers.

Fact 2

The right forearm must be driven into impact (hitters) or thrown into impact (swingers) on-plane = pointing at the plane line as the angle of attack. In hitters, there is also an "angle of approach" and the right forearm must leave impact fix alignment along this "angle of approach" during the right forearm takeaway and return along this "angle of approach" in the late downswing.

Is that correct. Are there more insights?

Jeff.

Jeff,

Correct? I really don't know without re-reading 7-3 in light of what you are saying .

More insights? Again, I really have nothing more to offer at this stage.

I would have to revisit the text with your thought in mind and get a little more analytical before I could offer arguments that might suit your purpose.

Perhaps there are other cyber correspondents who could engage you in this subject.

For my part, I am happy to simply accept Mr Kelley's offerings until I am sure that he and I are at divergence, in which event I would refer to the Trustee of his legacy - Yoda.

Jeff, the magic of the right forearm means for me (not full-time TGMer) that your right (rear) forearm bones can act alongside (paralelly) to the shaft - sort of being the elongation of the shaft....especially approaching and executing impact. Think: nunchakoo sticks - your right forearm is the upper stick, your wrist is the chain and your shaft is the lower stick. Forget about the grip in this visualization.

Cheers

Dariusz

I fully agree that the right forearm should be "on-plane"' at impact and aligned behind the shaft along the elbow plane. However, I think that the right forearm also has "magic" throughout the downswing. It not only acts (together with the bent right wrist and PP#3) to direct the clubshaft into impact, but it also acts to keep the clubshaft on plane throughout the entire downswing. I think that's also part of its "magic". Also, if one uses a right forearm takeaway, it is possible for the right forearm (through its three dimensional motion in space) to keep the clubshaft on-plane during the backswing. That means that the right forearm has "magic" in the backswing as well. That's why I was posing this question - I am trying to understand the conceptual extent of the "magic of the right forearm" in different golfer's minds.

Jeff.

Supporting On Plane Motion
 

Right you are, Jeff (as usual, after your own 'proof positives'). Moreover, the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading and Release motions of the Sweetspot (and #3 Pressure Point / Right Forefinger) without itself being On Plane.

Besides the supporting role, at which points exactly MUST the right forearm also be on plane and at which points is it "allowed" to depart from being on plane, assuming it will not compromise its supporting roll ?

Right On
 

The Right Forearm will be on Plane when the Right Elbow is On Plane; Release to Follow Through.

Thanks Drewit. Would the Release begin when the #2 accumulator begins releasing, say for a Swinger ?

Letting Go
 

The Release triggers into action ALL the Power Accumulators employed. If you are using, per 10-4, a Single Barrel (#2 alone) or Double Barrel Accumulator Combination (#2 and #3) then Release would occur as you describe. Both being low power strokes.

However, I don't believe I have answered your question in the context you mean it. As you refering to Release Motions in 4-D-0 and the Sequenced Release of the Swinger or the normally employed Swinger's Three Barrel (4-2-3) Total Motion Stroke Pattern (in which case the Release of #4 would precede #2)?

Lynn and Jeff, the problem that I see is that if we want to start the takeaway with the rear forearm in line with the shaft is that:
- either the arm is too bent in elbow and the ball position too much forward without any cock of the wrist at address
- or one needs to execute an impact fix position at address with a relatively strong RH grip.
I believe that is why e.g. Hogan was perfectly aware that both are unefficient methods of addresing (vide: "5 Lessons") and he accepted the fact that the rear forearm magic start to act exactly when the golfer returns to the elbow plane during downswing - the sooner the better.

Just my 2 eurocents :)

Cheers

I took a quick look at the yellow book before I wrote my post and saw the
4-D-0 that you mentioned and this is where I came up with the Release beginning when #2 starts to release.

BUT what I am really after, in case your answer is different would be for a 4,2,3 Three Barrel swing. The question for this is "When should the right forearm begin to be on-plane" ?

Thats a great question. Understanding exactly when the RF is on plane, when it diverges and realigns seems crucial for alignment golf.

I think many of us understand where it must be at times, but not all the time, and that incomplete understanding leads to fog/confusion.

Further, I think we would benefit from understanding 'RF alignment through the swing' of pro players whose RF's are not on plane with the shaft at address.

Yoda - you wrote-: "the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading".

You are right. I forgot about that point. I now recall one of your archived posts where you wrote about a strut supporting an airplane wing (which is a good analogy).

To summarise what is meant by the term "Magic of the Right forearm" it includes-:

1) The right forearm supports the on-plane loading of the primary lever assembly in hitters and the secondary lever assembly in swingers.

2) It acts together with the bent right wrist and PP#3 to keep the clubshaft on-plane throughout the entire downswing (via tracing the SPL action).

3) It gets on-plane as it paddlewheels into impact thus supporting the clubshaft at impact.

I think that one can see the 'magic of the right forearm" in action in Stuart Appleby's swing.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_jqJ9R2LypY&NR=1

I produced the following series of capture images from that video and highlighted the right upper limb in red so that one can concentrate one's visual attention on the right forearm.

Backwsing



It looks like he is using a right forearm takeaway in images 2 and 3. It looks like his right forearm is supporting the load of the secondary lever assembly in image 5. Image 4 shows how the right forearm takeaway can keep the clubshaft on-plane during the mid-backswing.

Downswing




Images 1, 2 and 3 show how the right forearm acts to keep the clubshaft on-plane during the downswing.

Images 4 and 5 show how the right forearm paddlewheels to an on-plane position behind the clubshaft as it nears impact.

Jeff.

Visual Feet To the Fire
 

Great stuff, Jeff. Thank you so much for your out-of-the-ordinary contributions.

:salut: