Verizon Heritage / PGA TOUR / April 15-18, 2010
 

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The reigning champion! That must be very gratifying!

Lynn for those flop shots Brian is playing there, would I be right in assuming the clubface is still pointed at the target? So Open, Open 10-5-D? The photographer is standing on the Plane Line but the Target Line and Clubface pointing out to the right.............way right with the blade laid on its back.

Does he use a 10-3-J Pause Minor Basic Stroke but with Vertical Hinging (as opposed to the accompanying photo which seems to show Horizontal)? So similar to the 2-C-3 #2 Lob shot diagram, no compression? Does he make any attempt to cover the plane line , intentional steering as the diagram would suggest or does he just let er go as per usual? Does he shallow out his Angle of Attack by employing a flatter plane angle?

Sorry for all the questions. I guess I could have just asked "What's Brian's flop shot method, using TGM speak. "

Go team.

Good luck BG with the defence.

Do As He Does
 

So much of this Cut Lob shot is established at Address. Duplicate Brian's Open Plane Line - Open Stance Line and wide-open Clubface. Also, his well-forward ball position (ahead of the middle of his stance but back of his left shoulder low point). Note also his Centered Head. This is a huge key: You get "behind the ball" -- when you want to -- by moving the ball forward, not by moving the head back.

Then, in a full Acquired Motion Stroke (belt high-to-belt high with Wristcock) trace the Open Plane Line -- not the Target Line! -- with your Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point, and see what you get. I think you'll like it!

I'll be writing more about this technique soon in my instruction segment (under Brian's byline) on http://www.thumbzine.com/swing.html. In fact, that's why I took these photos!

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So 2-C-3 #2 then without the Steering, as he's tracing, which is what Id have guessed. Can anybody Steer like in that diagram or is it more theoretical? Hmmm maybe an Angle of Approach guy? A hitter on a super high plane angle? I dunno.

Peter Kostis Analysis of Heath Slocum Driver Swing On #18 (3rd Round)
 

Just in from the wedding of my niece that was book-ended with my own happiest moments: Time on the tee with those I can help.

I arrive home -- Mrs. Yoda is still making the rounds -- and tune in to TGC and this:

"With the help of the Konica Minolta Biz Hub Swing Vision camera . . . left arm is just perfectly on plane."

-- Peter Kostis

Please.

Heath's Hands/Club and Right Shoulder are In Plane with the Ball.

Not the Left Shoulder.

The Left Shoulder is well outside this Hands-Club-Ball line, as it should be.

Hence, there is NO WAY the Left Arm can be "On Plane."

[We'll put up a pix. Meanwhile, all you guys who can do this, please do and draw the lines!]

All this smacks of the Hardy 'One Plane' nonsense wherein the left arm is in the plane of the Shoulder Turn and, in some 'magic bullet' kind of way, also in plane with the Ball.

Even more please.

How much longer must we be subjected to this drivel?

:(

Here's my vote for Hands, Sweetspot, Right Shoulder and Ball all In Plane at the Top.

[Pix coming.]

Alignment Golf.

Gotta love it!

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Thanks Yoda.
Reading your reaction is like hosing down after a long day in the field--pure relief
Hope to get to the range tomorrow to work on pp#1 over the ball.

Deja Vu
 

Here we go...again:)

One More
 

This one too...:)

Here's Heath
 

The man himself at Top (16th at Augusta last week) :)

HG, great pictures of how Brian gets the club shaft PERFECTLY on plane. Homer Kelley would love that... :salut:

Kevin

And what happens if you teach that misalignment to a guy who is talented enough to pull it off?


http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/a...d=127159697 9

More Pictures
 

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The Hands and the Right Shoulder , they have a thing going on. In Startdown.

This camera angle is kinda sorta on plane at Top, I wish they shot this angle more often.

Its interesting how these guys made adjustments to get their hands and right shoulder on the Inclined Plane for Startdown given their various backswings. Plane Angle shifting, despite the fact it looks like a non planar, curved hand path. It is curved and planar too. 1-L-18.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StKkT...eature=related

Sad State of Affairs
 

Thanks, hg. Your photo of Heath illustrates exactly what I was talking about. Clearly, Heath's left arm is not on plane, despite Mr. Kostis's analysis to the contrary.

If a "noted" television swing analyst can't come close to getting the Plane right, what does that tell you about the state of conventional instruction?

Thanks also to O.B. for his photos. 'Preciate it!
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If we had a thread of Peter Kostis, among many others, incorrect geometrical statements of professional golf swings it would probably be the most lengthy thread in the history of this forum. Whats scary is until last June or so I just took their professional word as correct. There just might be a reason why handicaps have not improved.