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Yoda 09-21-2010 11:20 PM

Ted Fort's Golf Channel Instructor Search Video
 
Our very own Ted Fort has also submitted an entry. For those not familiar with Ted (YodasLuke on the forums), you can read his bio here:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...-gseb-pga.html

A couple highlights include Lynn Blake Certified Master Instructor and 2006 Georgia PGA Teacher of the Year.

Enjoy!


Daryl 09-21-2010 11:41 PM

You're a great Teacher Ted and you've made a very fine video application. I'll be rooting for you.

YodasLuke 09-21-2010 11:41 PM

thanks
 
Thanks Yoda.

I hope this basic version of TGM doesn't offend all of you TGM aficionados.

gmbtempe 09-22-2010 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 76176)
Thanks Yoda.

I hope this basic version of TGM doesn't offend all of you TGM aficionados.

I really liked it, and don't tell anyone else on this site but I liked it best :-$

Can I ask a question? In my own swing among many of the faults I don't think there is a roll as you state with the left wrist through impact. Did I understand that correct? What happens to the wedge alignments if you don't do this?

KevCarter 09-22-2010 07:22 AM

Awesome Job Ted!!!

:salut: :salut: :salut:

YodasLuke 09-22-2010 07:52 AM

spreading the word
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmbtempe (Post 76180)
I really liked it, and don't tell anyone else on this site but I liked it best :-$

Can I ask a question? In my own swing among many of the faults I don't think there is a roll as you state with the left wrist through impact. Did I understand that correct? What happens to the wedge alignments if you don't do this?

Everyone on this site (team) has the common goal to help people learn to play G.O.L.F. So, I believe that any of us would be happy if someone was able to arrive at an idea that they previously didn't understand, no matter which video was able to do it. I really believe this to be the truth, or I wouldn't be on this site. That's not just politically correct, pageant speech. :angel1:

Although my video was targeted at "Joe Schmoe" in the general population, No Roll of the Clubface is different than the No Roll Feel of Angled Hinging. If the Clubface remains square to the target (Steering, 3-F-7-A), you get The Bent Left Wrist and Clubhead Throwaway.

Here are some things that Homer said with regard to your question...

There's should be no change in the Flying Wedges:

6-B-3-0 THE THIRD POWER ACCUMULATOR
Power Accumulator #3 is formed by the angle established between the Clubshaft and the Left Forearm. Accumulator #3 should never be “Out-of-Line – instead, it seeks to MAINTAIN its radial alignment with the Left Arm and Left Wrist vertical to its associated Plane. So, basically, Accumulator #3 Hand Motion (4-D-0) is “Clubface Control,” “Rhythm Control,” and “Roll Power Control” of the Right Elbow (7-3). Study 2-G and 7-20.

6-B-3-0-1 THE FLYING WEDGES
The Clubhead may appear to move in a an arc around and outside the Hands when related to the Left Arm – the very basic Left Arm Flying Wedge. But when related to the Right Forearm, it appears to move “On Plane” with the Right Forearm, at its normal rigid angle (Bent Right Wrist) – the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. So – except in Sections 1 and 3 (Chapter 8 ) the entire Left Arm, the Clubshaft and the back of the Left Hand are ALWAYS positioned against the same flat plane – the Right Forearm and the Clubshaft are, in like manner, positioned on the plane of the Right Wrist Bend AT RIGHT ANGLES TO THE LEFT ARM PLANE. That is the precision assembly and alignment of the Power Package structure and is mandatory during the entire motion. Hitting or Swinging. Study 4-D-1 regarding “Grip” and “Flat Left Wrist”. Also see 7-3. Then, ideally, the Left Wrist is always Flat and the Right Wrist is always Level (4-A-1, 4-B-1).

drewitgolf 09-22-2010 09:32 AM

A Ted of his time
 
Nice job as always Ted. Golfers are always looking for more power. This will certainly generate interest :salut: .

BerntR 09-22-2010 10:02 AM

Great video, Ted,

What excellent translation of TGM's power accumulators to layman's terms.

Yoda 09-22-2010 10:53 AM

We Win!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmbtempe (Post 76180)

I really liked it, and don't tell anyone else on this site but I liked it best :-$

"Vive la difference!"

The way I look at it, Ted, Rick and myself are individual voices in the same choir. We each are capable of 'soloing' at any time and enjoy that challenge. But, we also are perfectly content serving as 'backup' in any given performance.

Using another analogy, there are eleven men on a football team. Fielding only one, whether a quarterback, tackle or tight end, leaves the 'team' at a serious competitive disadvantage.

With the addition of Ted's and Rick's videos, our system of Alignment Golf gets three times the exposure it would have otherwise. And you guys get a triple dose of Lynn Blake Certified Instructor training, each rendered in a unique way and from a different perspective.

Score?

Lynn Blake 1
Ted Fort 1
Rick Murphy 1
Lynn Blake Golf.com 3
Alignment Golf 3
TGM 3
Golf World 9
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Total Score 21!
================

Just the way I like it!

:3gears:

O.B.Left 09-22-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 76189)
Although my video was targeted at "Joe Schmoe" in the general population, No Roll of the Clubface is different than the No Roll Feel of Angled Hinging. If the Clubface remains square to the target (Steering, 3-F-7-A), you get The Bent Left Wrist and Clubhead Throwaway.


Great video Ted and the post above is awesome too. So the cure for a bending left wrist is a flat, ROLLING left wrist? As in "DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP" maybe?

Now where have I heard something like this before ................... Oh ya Yoda's Swivel video....."Why? Because thats where the Golfing Machine lives , thats why!"

Thats like finding the cure for the common cold or something.

The song remains the same but each voice brings new perspective. So true.

Which reminds me where's the fourth tenor's video? .......Jeff Hull and you guys going head to head in the final four would be awesome.

innercityteacher 09-22-2010 12:25 PM

Remeber, too, this famous quote from another of Yoda's videos...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 76203)
Great video Ted and the post above is awesome too. So the cure for a bending left wrist is a flat, ROLLING left wrist? As in "DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP" maybe?

Now where have I heard something like this before ................... Oh ya Yoda's Swivel video....."Why? Because thats where the Golfing Machine lives , thats why!"

Thats like finding the cure for the common cold or something.

The song remains the same but each voice brings new perspective. So true.

Which reminds me where's the fourth tenor's video? .......Jeff Hull and you guys going head to head in the final four would be awesome.


"That ball will act a whole lot differently!"

That is so cool!

It does, esp in little tournament competition, which is the only kind I have played in so far!

:)


Ted, can I take this water bottle off my head now?

YBGF

dlam 09-22-2010 12:31 PM

Very well done Ted. Enjoy the presentation along with Rick and Lynn's.
I like your no nonsense approach.
Especially the tip for properly addressing the at the toe when the club is on the ground.

gmbtempe 09-22-2010 12:48 PM

I hope my post was taken as a positive rather then a negative, all three video's were great, and I should add there are some other really good TGM material in other video's that were submitted, I take it as a win whenever more information can get to players.

KevCarter 09-22-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmbtempe (Post 76211)
I hope my post was taken as a positive rather then a negative, all three video's were great, and I should add there are some other really good TGM material in other video's that were submitted, I take it as a win whenever more information can get to players.

Absolutely! :salut: :salut: :salut:

YodasLuke 09-22-2010 04:52 PM

mama sang bass, daddy sang tenor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 76203)
Which reminds me where's the fourth tenor's video? .......Jeff Hull and you guys going head to head in the final four would be awesome.

Jeff has a voice for radio...No, I didn't say face!

If we start singing, I'll promise you he's on bass. His voice carries for miles.

Burner 09-22-2010 06:43 PM

I might have known!
 
Sneaking in under the radar with a most natural, unaffected presentation.

Not only that but the material, once absorbed, cannot fail to achieve the objective of adding distance to anyones swing.

Top job by a top guy.:salut:

mb6606 09-22-2010 07:41 PM

Sincere natural delivery with excellent material - great job.

innercityteacher 09-22-2010 10:55 PM

I am amazed at the clarity of instruction from so many leaders on this site.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 76176)
Thanks Yoda.

I hope this basic version of TGM doesn't offend all of you TGM aficionados.

If I could just speak with a Southern accent! :)

Really, terrific instructional video!


Thanks!


Patrick

golfguru 09-22-2010 11:09 PM

You can talk to me.
You can show me.
To get it for sure Involve me.

Loved the, "Get off your chair."

YodasLuke 09-23-2010 07:35 AM

thank you
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 76244)
If I could just speak with a Southern accent! :)

Really, terrific instructional video!


Thanks!


Patrick

Thanks to everyone for the kind words.

As far as the accent goes, my 11th great grandfather arrived at the Isle of Wight, VA in 1635 on the ship the Globe of London. My ancestors have been in the South since then. So, 375 years is a long time to get something right. :thumright

dodger 09-23-2010 10:11 AM

All three of these videos are so well done that any golfer will improve by following the advice provided. What a fallacy that the golfing machine is complicated. When taught like this it is awful simple. Great job, I will be watching these for a long time.

alex_chung 09-23-2010 02:59 PM

Nice vid Ted! Simple but yet effective, the best thing about these 3 videos is that you pick up something each time you watch it. There are 3 different types of presentation but the message is the same :D
Picked up the little nugget about the right elbow which is nice!! :salut:
Alex

joe curtis 09-25-2010 04:43 PM

great job, ted.

david sandridge 09-25-2010 06:37 PM

fantastic
 
Great video. I do think in the last few seconds of that video a great finale would be for you to hit a real ball with that water bottle on your head !! That would clinch the deal.

airair 09-26-2010 07:21 AM

A question to YodasLuke (and others)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 76176)
Thanks Yoda.

I hope this basic version of TGM doesn't offend all of you TGM aficionados.

Your 4. source to gain more clubhead speed - the rolling of the forearms (horisontal hinging?) - does that also apply for a hitter? (Does'nt a hitter use angled hinging?). (You are a hitter, aren't you?). If it isn't used like what a swinger does - does that mean that a hitter loses speed compared to a swinger?

KevCarter 09-26-2010 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 76381)
Your 4. source to gain more clubhead speed - the rolling of the forearms (horisontal hinging?) - does that also apply for a hitter? (Does'nt a hitter use angled hinging?). (You are a hitter, aren't you?). If it isn't used like what a swinger does - does that mean that a hitter loses speed compared to a swinger?

The context of the video was explaining the Power Accumulator #3, not horizontal hinging. Common mistake in getting them confused. #3 PA is a tough one to describe, but there are many threads here where it is very well done. I'm on my way out the door or I would do the search for you...

Ted is a 4 Barrel Hitter (utilizing all 4 power accumulators), as is one of YODA's patterns that I enjoy studying as my personal model. Done correctly, utilizing the pivot as YODA and TED both explain can be very powerful. In it's simplest form, hitting may be done using only 1 power source, i.e. the right elbow, making it very precise for the short game as well. I marvel at the speed Ted generates with the dowel when showing all 4 power accumulators used together in his video.

There are so many options within the machine! ...

Kevin

Burner 09-26-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david sandridge (Post 76372)
Great video. I do think in the last few seconds of that video a great finale would be for you to hit a real ball with that water bottle on your head !! That would clinch the deal.

Factor in that unique pivot action that Ted does so well and the winner could be assured.:laughing9

airair 09-27-2010 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 76382)
The context of the video was explaining the Power Accumulator #3, not horizontal hinging. Common mistake in getting them confused. #3 PA is a tough one to describe, but there are many threads here where it is very well done. I'm on my way out the door or I would do the search for you...

Ted is a 4 Barrel Hitter (utilizing all 4 power accumulators), as is one of YODA's patterns that I enjoy studying as my personal model. Done correctly, utilizing the pivot as YODA and TED both explain can be very powerful. In it's simplest form, hitting may be done using only 1 power source, i.e. the right elbow, making it very precise for the short game as well. I marvel at the speed Ted generates with the dowel when showing all 4 power accumulators used together in his video.

There are so many options within the machine! ...

Kevin

Complicated.

I thought there were only 3 hinge motions and therefore 3 ways to move the forearms. But can the rolling of the forearms happen in other ways too (as the 4th source of getting greater clubhead speed as shown in Ted Fort's video)? How does the left forearm roll (as shown in the video) without a horisontal hinging? (Does a hitter even have horisontal hinging?)

KevCarter 09-27-2010 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 76418)
Complicated.

I thought there were only 3 hinge motions and therefore 3 ways to move the forearms. But can the rolling of the forearms happen in other ways too (as the 4th source of getting greater clubhead speed as shown in Ted Fort's video)? How does the left forearm roll (as shown in the video) without a horisontal hinging? (Does a hitter even have horisontal hinging?)

All your answers are found in:

6-B-3-0 THE THIRD POWER ACCUMULATOR

Kevin

KevCarter 09-27-2010 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 76424)
All your answers are found in:

6-B-3-0 THE THIRD POWER ACCUMULATOR

Kevin

Please also see:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...6397#post76397

Kevin

airair 09-27-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 76424)
All your answers are found in:

6-B-3-0 THE THIRD POWER ACCUMULATOR

Kevin

.
Now I know where it is.
The only thing left is to understand what this means. I haven't a clue.

KevCarter 09-27-2010 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 76427)
.
Now I know where it is.
The only thing left is to understand what this means. I haven't a clue.

I have worked my A** off here for about 3 years trying to absorb everything, and I am very glad I have. However, YODA is correct, you need to get face to face with someone who really knows TGM. I learned more in my one day with YODA than I have the 3 years combined. I wish I could help you the way he helped me, but I still have far too much to learn to do you any good.

Kevin

airair 09-27-2010 02:01 PM

All your contributions are helpful - especially when you explain in your own words what Homer Kelley has written in his great/difficult book.

airair 09-28-2010 05:34 AM

I still don't understand how it is possible to roll the left forearm to get additional force/speed (as the 4th source as shown in the video) without it being a hinging motion. When the left arm rolls - why isn't that a horisontal hinging? Is it a movement of the left forearm that is identical to a horisontal (or angled?) hinging, but is called something else? The left arms doesn't move and not move at the same time? And if it moves - how can one roll the left forearm in different ways - it turns to the left doesn't it? How does this work with a angled hinging - how does the left forearm turn in this case? Who is bright enough to explain this in an understandable way?

HungryBear 09-28-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 76478)
I still don't understand how it is possible to roll the left forearm to get additional force/speed (as the 4th source as shown in the video) without it being a hinging motion. When the left arm rolls - why isn't that a horisontal hinging? Is it a movement of the left forearm that is identical to a horisontal (or angled?) hinging, but is called something else? The left arms doesn't move and not move at the same time? And if it moves - how can one roll the left forearm in different ways - it turns to the left doesn't it? How does this work with a angled hinging - how does the left forearm turn in this case? Who is bright enough to explain this in an understandable way?

I will try.
Re-number the power sources to the accumulator they represent.
1 & 2 to 1 & 4 and 3 & 4 to 2 & 3. So, power source #4 is accumulator # 3.
think of the hinges being at the left shoulder (primary lever assembly movement) and accumulators 2 and 3 at the wrist/hands, (secondary lever assembly- the flail- endless belt effect). Accumulator #3 is this movement of the secondary lever assembly AROUND the left arm. ALL in a very coordinated way Called RHYTHM.

The Bear

airair 09-28-2010 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungryBear (Post 76488)
I will try.
Re-number the power sources to the accumulator they represent.
1 & 2 to 1 & 4 and 3 & 4 to 2 & 3. So, power source #4 is accumulator # 3.
think of the hinges being at the left shoulder (primary lever assembly movement) and accumulators 2 and 3 at the wrist/hands, (secondary lever assembly- the flail- endless belt effect). Accumulator #3 is this movement of the secondary lever assembly AROUND the left arm. ALL in a very coordinated way Called RHYTHM.

The Bear

Thanks for trying to make a gateway into my head. I'm afraid I didn't permit this to happen, but some sort of shield blocked it from getting in.

Ted Fort calls it Left Forearm Roll. And this is happens because of Accumulator 3. If you all say so, it certainly must be true - and Homer Kelley said so as well. I stand corrected.

But that doesn't mean I understand what's going on. What is the difference between this left forearm roll and what happens in a horisontal hinging - allthough that's NOT the case here? Is it a (full) left forearm roll by accumulator 3 that resembles a horisontal hinging? The left forearm ROLLS. The reason it does it - is not because of a horisontal hinging , but does it do anything else than a horisontal hinging would have done in another situation, and apparently looks just like it? What is the difference other than the label and the way this is explained? Does the left arm do anything different? What kind of hinge motion is used in this total motion with the demonstrated left forearm roll in this video? Can a full swing be performed without hinging whatsoever of the left forearm - but with a left forearm roll nevertheless?
Does anyone see my problem here - other than a brain transplantation?

HungryBear 09-28-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 76494)
Thanks for trying to make a gateway into my head. I'm afraid I didn't permit this to happen, but some sort of shield blocked it from getting in.

Ted Fort calls it Left Forearm Roll. And this is happens because of Accumulator 3. If you all say so, it certainly must be true - and Homer Kelley said so as well. I stand corrected.

But that doesn't mean I understand what's going on. What is the difference between this left forearm roll and what happens in a horisontal hinging - allthough that's NOT the case here? Is it a (full) left forearm roll by accumulator 3 that resembles a horisontal hinging? The left forearm ROLLS. The reason it does it - is not because of a horisontal hinging , but does it do anything else than a horisontal hinging would have done in another situation, and apparently looks just like it? What is the difference other than the label and the way this is explained? Does the left arm do anything different? What kind of hinge motion is used in this total motion with the demonstrated left forearm roll in this video? Can a full swing be performed without hinging whatsoever of the left forearm - but with a left forearm roll nevertheless?
Does anyone see my problem here - other than a brain transplantation?

In the Alignment Golf DVD there is a segment where Yoda, along with VJ, demonstrates introduction of wrist cock. The "finger test". Digest that and it will be clearer.

The Bear

airair 09-28-2010 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungryBear (Post 76496)
In the Alignment Golf DVD there is a segment where Yoda, along with VJ, demonstrates introduction of wrist cock. The "finger test". Digest that and it will be clearer.

The Bear

You are right. I don't know if I really understand it, but I saw and heard Yoda swiftly commenting on this and it has something to do with holding the club in your fingers and making an angle between the the inside of the left forearm and the clubshaft (grip) and that angle produces a roll of the left forearm and (even more the clubhead). If we grip more in the middel of the hand (not so much in the fingers) much of this angle disappears and there won't be so much roll ... or something like that?

BerntR 09-28-2010 04:21 PM

Airair,

It looks to me like you're about to get this part.
There isn't any difference between what happens with Accummulator #3 and dual horizontal hinging. Dual horizontal is one way of releasing the club, including acc #3.

There is a difference in how acc#3 is released with dual horizontal and angle hinging, but I guess you've heard about that already. In dual horizontal, the release is sequenced: 1->2->3. Like a chain reaction if you wish. With angled hinging they all happen at the same time: 1+2+3. The dual horizontal hinge has a mechanical advantage because it is the hinge action that has the longest clubhead travel compared to hands travel.

Dual horizontal is also the hinge actionwith fastest overtaking rate.

airair 09-28-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 76504)
Airair,

It looks to me like you're about to get this part.
There isn't any difference between what happens with Accummulator #3 and dual horizontal hinging. Dual horizontal is one way of releasing the club, including acc #3.

There is a difference in how acc#3 is released with dual horizontal and angle hinging, but I guess you've heard about that already. In dual horizontal, the release is sequenced: 1->2->3. Like a chain reaction if you wish. With angled hinging they all happen at the same time: 1+2+3. The dual horizontal hinge has a mechanical advantage because it is the hinge action that has the longest clubhead travel compared to hands travel.

Dual horizontal is also the hinge actionwith fastest overtaking rate.

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