help with new irons !
 

Just looking for any suggestions for some new forged irons. Im lefty so this is always an issue when shopping for new equipment. Im playing mizuno mp 57 right now. Im a 5 HC.
Any suggestions ?

Miura has some good looking lefties. Can't go wrong with them.

Saw your post about new irons. I think you cant do much better than the Mizuno iron. However...the most important thing you can do if you haven't already is to be fit by a professional fitter.

Fit To Win
 

Stay with Mizuno. They make a great forged club, and you know them. Given your single-digit handicap, I would strongly suggest the MP-53s beginning with the 4-iron (and possibly the 3-iron depending on your launch trajectories). This is a great club that you could take all the way to the pitching wedge.

http://www.mizunousa.com/equipment.n...1glf1-irons-mp

However, you might want to consider a "split" set. If so, then consider the MP-68s beginning with the 7-iron.

http://www.mizunousa.com/equipment.n...1glf1-irons-mp

Obviously, custom fitting is a must. Here are some of the basic factors: http://www.mizunousa.com/glfcustfit....0?OpenDocument

As always, the shaft is a major consideration, just as important (if not more so) than the head. To find the one(s) that are right for you, I recommend you make three swings with the Mizuno Shaft Optimizer. Last time I looked, it selected from a database of more than 400 shafts based on five different factors. In my experience, the results (including "soft step" recommendations) have been on the money.

http://www.mizunousa.com/news.nsf/0/...2576E000729694

Lastly, don't forget the grip, not just its composition, but also its size. If you wear a medium-large glove, consider a mid-size grip. It's a bit larger than Standard, and thus, as Homer Kelley would say, ". . . easier to hold onto".

Don't be intimidated by all this. When done by a competent professional, the fitting process is a breeze. And, Mizuno USA is prepared to "get'er done": Even custom orders ship from Atlanta within three days or less. :shock:


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I agree. Stick to Mizuno.

I'm a lefty too. I have played MP 32 for quite a few years. I love them som much that I'm thinking of purchasing the MP 68's:laughing9

Great thank you so much.
I was looking at the mp 68 . I have a great fitter by my house. I had hit a Miura 6 iron that was pured. Wow what a difference.. amazing feel. They are little steep in price. I believe it was 250 a stick "pured".

What do you suggest for a 12 HC? In general without club fitting, what kind of shaft recommended?

I don't think the blades are as hard to hit as their reputation. Off center hits feels worse but the result isn't much worse than with a forgiving iron. I even saw a scientific comparison a while ago where they compared thin, toe, heel hits etc. The difference was very moderate, and the blades even produced better results on a couple of the mishits (i think it was towards the heel)

I wouldn't advice aganist blades for a 12 hcp. If you like what you see at address they will not hurt your score. And the feedback you will get could make you a better player.

But lie angle and shaft must fit or else it's just a waist of money. And I think the two should fit with how you want to hit the ball and not necessarily to how you hit it today. Particularly if you have a misfit today your swing has adopted to it and those compensations will also be in operation when you try new irons.

I went for Mizunos because they were the flattest forged irons I could find. Then I had the factory make flatten them progressively towards the 3 iron. I did the fitting based on experience and wear marks on my old TA 845SS (which was also pretty flat) and it turned out pretty well. If anything I should have flattened a degree or two more in the short irons too. And perhaps I would have benefitted from something slightly softer than s300 but I don't think that affects either scoring or workability so it's a minor.

Does the plane angle have influence on the lie angle? I.e. if want to set up close to TSP (for zero shift) than a steeper lie angle, elbow plane then flatter angle.

Yes. But perhaps not as much as one would believe. Where is your hands at impact and where do you want to have them? Then you have to account for the shaft flex. Stiffer shafts requires flatter lie angles because they will flatten less when CF is pulling the clubhead.

Have a look for instance at Fowlers impact vs Hogan's impact. They are both really flat after transition. The biggest difference is that Fowler lets CF throw everything on plane through impact, so there's an almost straight line from his Left shoulders through his hands and to the sweet spot. While Hogan's holds his form much longer and goes through impact with lower hands. Hogan needs a lot flatter clubs than Fowler. Or perhaps what we see in Fowler is adaption to modern lie angles?

Thanks very much, BerntR. This is very helpful.

A lot of great advice so far! May I add my $.02?

In today's world of professional fitters, many specialize with certain companies. For example, I am a certified fitter for both Titleist and Ping. If you were in my area, I would be very comfortable custom fitting anybody with either. I would not feel comfortable fitting someone with Mizuno, as all companies specs are a little different, and I have no experience with them. I also wouldn't have Mizuno demos for you, and you would not be able to hit the various flavors.

I think most fitters are the same way. Someone who specializes in Mizuno may not be also certified with Titleist.

As others have mentioned, the most important part of buying new irons is being properly fit. If you have decided on Mizuno, a great choice, please be sure to find a fitter in your area who specializes with Mizuno equipment. You will be happy you did, and they will set you up with clubs that you will have a ton of confidence with.

Kevin

I just bought a set of Mizuno MP63 with KBS shafts...........money.

I wanted a feel club that was workable but just a tad more forgiving than a blade.

I had the 57's and they were solid but to much offset for my tastes but easier to hit than the 63's and definitely easier than the 68's.

You never identified what you do not like about your current set of clubs....
I am lefty too and ready to get into a more workable (less forgiving) club than I currently have (Cally x-12). I was fit by a great clubfitter a few years ago who determined that I hit my x-12s better than the 3 other options I had to choose from (bah! only 3 options for lefties)...ended up getting reshafted to tour concepts which made a good difference.

The choices for lefties are poor and you can rarely find a set to demo.
Mizuno seems to have alot to offer - I am eyeing the MP-53s. Either identify what you want to change (a reshaft may be the answer) or keep your current set and get another for trial and error. Of the other current lefty models that look possible (for me)...Miura cavity backs, Nike ProCombo or VR Split, Adams CB2. The Scratch EZ-1 and AR-1 look amazing but I don't think they are available in lefty.
Good luck

Lefties Welcome Wagon
 

More good news: the Mizuno fitting cart does not shortchange the lefty! Whether you're looking for blades, game enhancement, or game improvement clubs, you'll find a ready offering of their most popular clubheads.

And, for those needing a bit of extra shaft length, a special version of these models keeps down the overall club weight. You do want to be able to finish the round!

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I hear even some places have a lefty Mizuno shaft optimizer.

The 53's and 63's are as sweet and forgiving as any clubs I've ever played, and the 68's are certainly not hard to hit. I've been a big fan of Mizuno for a long time - GREAT clubs.

I cant see playing anything other than Mizuno irons. Cant kick my MP 32's outa my bag either. My Wilson Staffs lasted for 25 years, so maybe its me.

Drivers on the other hand need to be replaced as oft as Titleist makes a new one, I find. Not sure if its metal fatigue or what. Those guys have me addicted to those things worse than the Starbucks monkey I have on my back. The drivers are way cheaper than the coffee over a year too if you crunch the numbers.....