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greyguy 05-05-2009 01:39 AM

Is my backswing correct for hitting?
 
I just found this site after looking for some good information for hitters using TGM.

I just converted from swinging to hitting last week because of my lower back problems, short backswing, and lack of consistancy. So far I think it is the right move.

Here is what I have learned so far from different sources.

1. Address the ball in impact position with my right hip turned back.
2. Establish #3 pressure point
3. Take the club back by using a lawn mower rope pull action keeping the face from fanning open.

Is that about right? Your comments are appreciated.

KevCarter 05-06-2009 09:29 AM

greyguy,

Please see "Punch Elbow."

Quote:

10-3-A PUNCH From a “down-and-at-the-side” Elbow Position, whether the Elbow is touching the Body or not, a straight-line Right Hand Punch is delivered through Impact (6-E). Per 6-C-2-A and 7-19. Except with 10-3-C (Push), the Right Forearm must have a “Fanning” type of motion, not a “Linear” Push type of motion (10-3-C).
In my opinion, you have described the "feel" of the Hardy One Plane method. Great method, I'm not saying Mr. Hardy is wrong, but I don't think the "feel" is what we are looking for in TGM hitting.

Kevin

greyguy 05-06-2009 02:15 PM

Kevin,

Thanks for your response. I admit I am a little confused. It appears that your comments are in describing the downswing thrust, but my question is about the takeaway.

But the quote from TGM, about the right forearm must have a fanning motion, not a linear push is interesting. I was terrible in Geometry, so forgive me; but isn't linear a straight line? Isn't that what we are supposed to do; push straight at the aim point? Or are you saying, instead of pushing straight out towards the aim point from the elbow with the right forearm it is it describing a chopping motion towards the aim point? Is that fanning?
Your answer will be very interesting to me because maybe I have been thinking about this move towards the aim point all wrong.
Thanks again,
Jim

KevCarter 05-06-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greyguy (Post 63571)
Kevin,

Thanks for your response. I admit I am a little confused. It appears that your comments are in describing the downswing thrust, but my question is about the takeaway.

But the quote from TGM, about the right forearm must have a fanning motion, not a linear push is interesting. I was terrible in Geometry, so forgive me; but isn't linear a straight line? Isn't that what we are supposed to do; push straight at the aim point? Or are you saying, instead of pushing straight out towards the aim point from the elbow with the right forearm it is it describing a chopping motion towards the aim point? Is that fanning?
Your answer will be very interesting to me because maybe I have been thinking about this move towards the aim point all wrong.
Thanks again,
Jim

Hi Greyguy,

Sorry to confuse you Bro, I may have it wrong as well. I think of the fanning as being necessary on the back-stroke. That is also where Hardy talks about pulling the lawn mower cord... On the downstroke, hitting is more like a thrust with an axe handle, straight line to the aiming point just as you said.

Kevin

TrapsSCGoLF9 05-08-2009 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 63547)
greyguy,

Please see "Punch Elbow."



In my opinion, you have described the "feel" of the Hardy One Plane method. Great method, I'm not saying Mr. Hardy is wrong, but I don't think the "feel" is what we are looking for in TGM hitting.

Kevin

Not to thread-jack, but good stuff! From impact fix, I've been lifting my right forearm at the elbow, not fanning. I need my yellow book to get to me, pronto.

KevCarter 05-08-2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrapsSCGoLF9 (Post 63679)
Not to thread-jack, but good stuff! From impact fix, I've been lifting my right forearm at the elbow, not fanning. I need my yellow book to get to me, pronto.

I don't know how folks figured it out before the internet. It's ALL in the yellow book, and Yoda and the others here do a wonderful job of helping us discover it. Good luck Traps, welcome to the forum!

Kevin

TrapsSCGoLF9 05-08-2009 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 63680)
I don't know how folks figured it out before the internet. It's ALL in the yellow book, and Yoda and the others here do a wonderful job of helping us discover it. Good luck Traps, welcome to the forum!

Kevin

Thanks, Kevin - I've lurked for four years but never committed to trying TGM fully until this year, so I figured posting here will go along with studying that yellow book! I love all the talk of it on WRX (trapsmv15) and will try the fanning this weekend on the course. :salut:

greyguy 05-09-2009 03:29 PM

What is the exact motion for fanning on the backswing? Is it like Peter Crokers "slinging" motion for the backswing. (The clubhead with shaft just sweeps open on the backswing.) Is that correct?
I thought I read somewhere that the clubface should stay pointing at the target line as much as possible as a Hitter takes his backswing.

TrapsSCGoLF9 05-09-2009 03:54 PM

Didn't there used to be a David Orr video on the RFT? Is that in the Premium section, now? (Stupid me way back when never realized that his video applied to any stroke, not just swinging.)

precision system 05-11-2009 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greyguy (Post 63703)
What is the exact motion for fanning on the backswing? Is it like Peter Crokers "slinging" motion for the backswing. (The clubhead with shaft just sweeps open on the backswing.) Is that correct?
I thought I read somewhere that the clubface should stay pointing at the target line as much as possible as a Hitter takes his backswing.

Greyguy

PC's "slinging" takeaway is true rope handle swinging from std address hand location. Sitting firmly in the swinging section.

True hitting is no rotation of the sweet spot- single wrist action, 10-18-c, to allow for the recommended angled hinge thru the ball.
However hitters using the punch basic stroke can use some "fanning" - dealing cards toward your right shoulder (assuming your are right handed)
PC


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