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2-P DOWN into the Ground to Full Lever Extension
The first of Homer Kelley's 24
Stroke Components is The Grip (Basic). This describes the physical act of 'taking hold' of the Club. The last of the 24 Components is The Release, and this describes the figurative act of 'releasing' the Club. From The Top, the true and proper direction for Club to move is Down Plane -- Down Plane to Full Extension -- regardless of its incidental appearance of moving forward (2-K). For The Truth, grab a left and right handful of mayonnaise and grip a weedcutter or garden hoe. Now address an imaginary Ball and make your best swing. ["Be the Ball." -- Bill Murray :oops:] The weedcutter will not fly downrange toward the target. Instead, it will fly straight into the ground, probably directly at the Target Line and well behind the Ball. This is God's Plan. |
The Flail and Full Lever Extension
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Thanks to Digger's 'death match' wake-up call, let me answer your question in a way that will benefit more readers of this site: The Golfer's Flail (2-K) will reach Full Extension, i.e., go from Level (4-B-1) to Uncocked (4-B-3), an inch or two past Impact. The Thrust of the Stroke will continue Downplane (toward the Plane Line) until the Right Elbow has Fully Straightened. |
Full Down BM#221
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The Follow-Through (8-11) defines the Full Extension of both Arms, and it does not normally occur "just past Impact." Instead, what does occur is the Full Extension of the Primary Lever Assembly -- the Left Arm and Club (the Golfer's Flail) -- as the Right Elbow remains Bent. The Point of Thrust necessary to ensure both the above conditions is the Ball (when its Location agrees with the unique Straightaway Flight requirement of the Golf Club being used) or alternatively, a compensating Aiming Point (6-E-2). Regarding the angle of the Flail with the Ground, Full Extension (Angular Momentum per 2-K #2) occurs theoretically at Low Point, and the Flail would be perpendicular (90 degrees) to the Plane Line. However, in practice, the actual angle to the Plane Line -- the Forward Lean -- is dependent upon (and therefore determined by) the Shoulder-To-Ball Angle of the Left Arm Flying Wedge at Impact Fix. |
Flailed it to death . . . BM#223
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My answers have assumed the Scientific Principles and Terminology of The Golfing Machine and are correct within that context. Though I hoped otherwise, I suspected a hidden agenda in your line of questioning and am not surprised to see it surface. If you wish to redefine the Flail (and you apparently do) as an ethereal 'line in three-dimensional space' connecting the Center of the Shoulder Turn to the #1 Pressure Point -- or from the Right Foot to the #3 Pressure Point, for that matter -- then be my guest. My only request is that, in the future, please inform me of any non-TGM compliant personal definitions in advance of an extensive discussion and not in arrears. |
More Flail BM#224
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My mission on this site is to teach the Principles and Procedures of The Golfing Machine, not to convince others that their own concepts are invalid (though that is often the unavoidable by-product of the mission). And 'rededfining' is not "asking about something in TGM that makes no sense to me." Instead, it is conciously rejecting a straightforward tenet of TGM and replacing it with one's own. This is what you have done with The Golfer's Flail, and as I've said, I have no problem with that. But let's tell it like it is and be upfront about it before asking someone -- namely me -- to invest time answering a question you knew full well in advance would not -- indeed, could not -- be answered according to your own undisclosed definition. :oops: That said, I will address your question as to why Homer did not include the shoulder line as part of the Flail. The Golfer's Flail -- the Left Arm and Club -- is the Primary Lever Assembly (6-A-2) that ultimately applies Force to the Ball. It is attached to the Body at the Left Shoulder. Pivot Lag -- Body Power for Swingers and Launching Pad for Hitters -- is the 'gear train' that uses multiple Centers (Shoulders, Hips and Knees) to extend the Swing Radius of the Flail to any point from the Shoulder Turn to the Feet (6-C-0). However, this 'gear train extension' is not the Flail itself. It is the mechanism by which the Flail is accelerated. Now, if the above explanation of The Golfer's Flail "makes no sense" to you, well...it makes no sense (to you). I've done my job, i.e., I've 'informed and explained' to the best of my ability, and you have chosen to reject the concept. Fine. As I've said, if you want to consider the Flail as an ethereal 'line of force' in three-dimensional space from the mid-point of the shoulders to the Hands, then that is your decision. Just know that it is not the TGM concept, and the burden of proof, therefore, is on you, not me |
Flailing BM#227
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Look, Ed, this is a free forum, and you are entitled to your opinions and have every right discuss them. Likewise, other participants can choose to agree with or debate those opinions. That's the whole purpose of this forum and why it is so named. My only 'problem' here is that you asked me to answer very specific, detailed questions regarding the Flail -- which I did -- and then blindsided me with your 'revelation in arrears' that my efforts were essentially for naught because they were based on the 'wrong' Flail, i.e., the TGM Flail (and not your own). Hence, the waste of time. Further, I was not given the opportunity to choose whether or not I wanted to respond to your questions based on your personal concept of the Flail. Which I don't. Nothing personal, understand; it's just not why I'm here. Anway, no big deal. You contribute a lot to this forum and others, and I appreciate your efforts. We'll meet again and no doubt wrangle away on another topic. Meanwhile... You hit it with your Flail, and I'll hit it with mine. :oops: |
More Flails BM#228
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First of all, my quoted response above was made while you were still asking questions and before you disclosed your own "view." So, at the time, there was no "view" to "support," "dismiss," or "gloss over." Further, my comment was quite specific and did not "gloss over" anything. You asked what angle the Flail (the assembly of Left Arm and Club) makes with the ground when it gets In Line (given a vertical plane of motion). I replied that the theoretical answer was 90 degrees since the Flail gets In Line at Low Point (and therefore with Zero Forward Lean per 2-K #2). But we seldom locate the Ball at Low Point. We locate it behind Low Point. Hence, from a practical standpoint, the Flail usually gets In Line well before Low Point, thus creating a Forward Lean of the Left Arm Flying Wedge (the Left Arm and Clubshaft) and an angle greater than 90 degrees. That precise angle is dependent upon the degree of Forward Lean at Fix. And that is exactly what I said. Specifically, the degree of "Flail Lean" at Full Extension (In Line) will be determined by the distance the Left Hand must move (from its Impact Fix Location) as the Wrist completes its Uncocking Motion (from Level to Uncocked). |
Flail and Low Point BM#229
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Uh...no. Not agreed. 1. The terms 'Low Point' and 'Radius' are not interchangeable. The Low Point of the Golf Stroke -- which is what we're talking about here -- occurs when the Stroke Radius (the Left Arm and Club Assembly) points directly at the Ground. This is axiomatic...self-evident...the way things actually are (no matter how we may perceive them to be or wish them to be). 2. The maximum distance of the Clubhead from the Body -- its Left Shoulder or its 'Center' or its whatever -- is detetermined by the length of the Radius. And, as stated, that Radius is the Left Arm and Club. Hence, the Clubhead is at its farthest distance from the Body when the Left Arm is Straight. The condition of the Right Arm -- Straight or Bent -- is irrelevant. |
I Lost on Flail Jeopardy BM#248
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Welcome, everybody, to The EdZ Jumbled Jeopardy Game. And now, here's our host, EdZ! EdZ: Today's special guest is Yoda. Everybody ready? Here we go! All right, Yoda, what category would you like? Yoda: I'll take The Golfing Machine. EdZ: Ah, good choice there, Yoda. First question, Flails for $200, What is the correct angle of the flail to the Ground at full extension? Yoda: Theoretically, 90 degrees, but in practice, it can vary. EdZ (Pressing Red Wrong! Buzzer): AAANNNNNNHHH!!! Sorry, Yoda! That's not the Flail I was talking about. Mine is invisible and connects the shoulders with the Hands. Ready for another question? Yoda: I'll take Low Points for $300. EdZ: Another good choice! True or False: The Low Point is always under the ground. Yoda: False. Depends on where you locate the Low Point at Fix. EdZ (Pressing Red Wrong! Buzzer): AAANNNNNNHH!!!! Wrong again, Yoda, my man. I was talking about the Low Point of The Force, not of the Club. Want to try again? Yoda: <No response.> EdZ: I said, Yoda, want to try again? How about 'Circles' for $400? EdZ's Assistant: Sorry, Mr. Z, but Yoda has left the building. Said something about forgetting an appointment to get a root canal. :oops: |
Bm#253
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"It continues, Judah...it continues!" -- The dying Massalla taunting Judah Ben Hur |
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