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| Kwel... It helps if you clap that you move your hands more than a couple of inches (my bad). | Quote: | | The point is that when you watch your right arm, you will be observing its correct motion in Start-Up. When you watch your left arm, you will be observing the correct motion from Impact through the Follow-Through. |
Nice exercise or demo of those motions... Thanks
As I said to you in my PM I am not a good writer and really what I was attempting to ask was that often times other sources state you need to rotate your club (hands) in the downswing to get the clubface to square up. They usually point to the arms at hip level in the down swing to show their point. I am still not accepting that you need or should rotate the hands and forearms, the pivot will position the arms/hands/club and this natural motion of the forearm - fanning - will complete the necessary actions.
So what I was asking was is this fanning in your opinion what some refer to as rotation of the forearms or am I still missing it? I do understand you can turn and rotate the wrists but that it isn't necessary depending upon the grip type you choose.
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Regarding your first sentence, I have edited my original post to reflect thefact that the instruction to have the hands "a few inches apart"referred to the starting position only. From there, the arms do swingapart (and return) in a normal clapping motion. Thank you for clarifying theissue as others may have interpreted the instruction similarly. It just neveroccurred to me that a student might eliminate the "backswing." Thisnon-visual medium in which we communicate has its challenges!
Regarding the rotation issues, you are correct in that there is noSwivel, i.e., actual hand or forearm rotation, in the Startup. Here themotion -- which is the genesis of the Lag Loading (7-22, 10-22) and HingeActions(7-10 and 10-10) -- ideally will complement the Lag Loading and HingeAction to be employed. And the Hinge Actions do not involvean actual rotation of the Hands or Forearms.
For clarification, please refer to my post yesterday (1/14) in the forum Chapter5 Wrist Positions - Combinations, specifically the Swivel-ClosingClubface thread. That should go a long way toward establishing therespective identities of Hinging (which is not a true rotation of theHands) and of Swiveling (which most certainly is).
That said, the Swivel from Release to Impact is necessary only for Swingersemploying the Standard Left Wrist Action of 10-18-A. For Hitters (or Swingerswho just want to!), the Single Left Wrist Action of 10-18-C is moreappropriate. Then-- and I think this is what you are describing -- per the lastparagraph of 2-G, the Hinge Action will substitute for Wrist Action and"Hinging may Feel like one long, slow 'Swivel' from Top to Finish."
And just to make sure there is no misunderstanding, the fanning motiondescribed in The Golfing Machine is a Backstroke motion,specifically the Start-Up (Section 4 of the Stroke per 8-4). And, as statedabove, it should agree with the Lag Loading and Hinge Action employed in theStroke. The Downstroke motion, specifically from the Release to theFinish (Sections 8-9 through 8-12), is more precisely defined by the HingeActions and, where applicable, the Release and Finish Swivels.
Finally, as to your question of what others are describing when they refer toforearm rotation, I can only answer with a shrug of the shoulders and a verbal,"Who knows?" Ignorance is bliss, and from what I see, hear and read,there is a lot of bliss out there!
