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Jeff 11-26-2008 11:59 AM

Magic of the right forearm - Definition
 
I have seen this term "magic of the right forearm" used frequently.

Does it have a precise definition or is it a vague term that people use to describe different right forearm actions/functions?

In particular, is the term related to the right forearm's directional movement in the backswing and/or downswing and/or only pre-impact?

Jeff.

pistol 11-26-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 58161)
I have seen this term "magic of the right forearm" used frequently.

Does it have a precise definition or is it a vague term that people use to describe different right forearm actions/functions?

In particular, is the term related to the right forearm's directional movement in the backswing and/or downswing and/or only pre-impact?

Jeff.

Illusion of magic from a garage!! plenty world class players without right forearm on plane. Well yeah on plane to what ? which plane ? what about airplane that could work

Burner 11-26-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 58161)
I have seen this term "magic of the right forearm" used frequently.

Does it have a precise definition or is it a vague term that people use to describe different right forearm actions/functions?

In particular, is the term related to the right forearm's directional movement in the backswing and/or downswing and/or only pre-impact?

Jeff.

Jeff,

Study 7-3 Strokes-Basic to acquaint yourself with the MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM.

Jeff 11-26-2008 08:01 PM

Burner

I have studied 7:3 and I can idenitify two important facts re: the right forearm.

Fact 1

Top of the backswing - the right forearm is positioned perpendicular to the "on plane loading of the primary lever assembly" in hitters and the "on plane loading of the secondary lever assembly" in swingers.

Fact 2

The right forearm must be driven into impact (hitters) or thrown into impact (swingers) on-plane = pointing at the plane line as the angle of attack. In hitters, there is also an "angle of approach" and the right forearm must leave impact fix alignment along this "angle of approach" during the right forearm takeaway and return along this "angle of approach" in the late downswing.

Is that correct. Are there more insights?

Jeff.

Burner 11-28-2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 58171)
Burner

I have studied 7:3 and I can idenitify two important facts re: the right forearm.

Fact 1

Top of the backswing - the right forearm is positioned perpendicular to the "on plane loading of the primary lever assembly" in hitters and the "on plane loading of the secondary lever assembly" in swingers.

Fact 2

The right forearm must be driven into impact (hitters) or thrown into impact (swingers) on-plane = pointing at the plane line as the angle of attack. In hitters, there is also an "angle of approach" and the right forearm must leave impact fix alignment along this "angle of approach" during the right forearm takeaway and return along this "angle of approach" in the late downswing.

Is that correct. Are there more insights?

Jeff.

Jeff,

Correct? I really don't know without re-reading 7-3 in light of what you are saying .

More insights? Again, I really have nothing more to offer at this stage.

I would have to revisit the text with your thought in mind and get a little more analytical before I could offer arguments that might suit your purpose.

Perhaps there are other cyber correspondents who could engage you in this subject.

For my part, I am happy to simply accept Mr Kelley's offerings until I am sure that he and I are at divergence, in which event I would refer to the Trustee of his legacy - Yoda.

Dariusz J. 11-28-2008 08:38 PM

Jeff, the magic of the right forearm means for me (not full-time TGMer) that your right (rear) forearm bones can act alongside (paralelly) to the shaft - sort of being the elongation of the shaft....especially approaching and executing impact. Think: nunchakoo sticks - your right forearm is the upper stick, your wrist is the chain and your shaft is the lower stick. Forget about the grip in this visualization.

Cheers

Jeff 11-28-2008 11:38 PM

Dariusz

I fully agree that the right forearm should be "on-plane"' at impact and aligned behind the shaft along the elbow plane. However, I think that the right forearm also has "magic" throughout the downswing. It not only acts (together with the bent right wrist and PP#3) to direct the clubshaft into impact, but it also acts to keep the clubshaft on plane throughout the entire downswing. I think that's also part of its "magic". Also, if one uses a right forearm takeaway, it is possible for the right forearm (through its three dimensional motion in space) to keep the clubshaft on-plane during the backswing. That means that the right forearm has "magic" in the backswing as well. That's why I was posing this question - I am trying to understand the conceptual extent of the "magic of the right forearm" in different golfer's minds.

Jeff.

Yoda 11-29-2008 12:20 AM

Supporting On Plane Motion
 
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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 58220)

. . . I think that the right forearm also has "magic" throughout the downswing. It not only acts (together with the bent right wrist and PP#3) to direct the clubshaft into impact, but it also acts to keep the clubshaft on plane throughout the entire downswing. I think that's also part of its "magic".

[Additional bold emphasis by Yoda.]

Right you are, Jeff (as usual, after your own 'proof positives'). Moreover, the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading and Release motions of the Sweetspot (and #3 Pressure Point / Right Forefinger) without itself being On Plane.

knob333 11-29-2008 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 58222)
Right you are, Jeff (as usual, after your own 'proof positives'). Moreover, the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading and Release motions of the Sweetspot (and #3 Pressure Point / Right Forefinger) without itself being On Plane.

Besides the supporting role, at which points exactly MUST the right forearm also be on plane and at which points is it "allowed" to depart from being on plane, assuming it will not compromise its supporting roll ?

drewitgolf 11-29-2008 10:50 AM

Right On
 
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Originally Posted by knob333 (Post 58223)
Besides the supporting role, at which points exactly MUST the right forearm also be on plane and at which points is it "allowed" to depart from being on plane, assuming it will not compromise its supporting roll ?

The Right Forearm will be on Plane when the Right Elbow is On Plane; Release to Follow Through.


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