[birdie_man]

Ok.....

Let's assume that we KNOW that there should be no SWAY of the 'pivot center.'

So, you can use the "through the head" center or the "base of the neck" center.

Which one has the BEST stroke pattern performance.

I will define this 'performance' in the following way:

A. Best able to create and sustain lag pressue
B. Best able to 'draw' a straight plane line
C. Best able to control hinge action

Got it?

Ok.

Here is my OPINION:

I think creating and sustaining lag pressue is easier with the base of the neck.

I think staying or getting 'on top' (or behind, if you prefer) of the sweetspot with your #3 pressure point—as in Horizontal Hinging—is easier with the base of the neck.

I think performing ANGLED hinge action or vertical hinge action to be easier with the "through the head" center.

If you bend you plane line too much to the left as a rule, you will find it easier to NOT bend it left with the "base of the neck" center.

If you bend the plane line to the right as a rule, , you will find it easier to NOT bend it right with the "through the head" center.

What do ya'll think?

I actually really like the points you made in this first post Brian.

Especially the bit about Horizontal/Angled Hinging.

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OK.

I realize Homer is the man and all that.....he uh- KINDA knew his stuff.

But, I must say...

I personally like how Brian is going about all this..... I like a lot of his points and how he is explaining them. I like to hear real "why" answers.

I think anyone can just agree with Homer....and know the book....

...and you know what....for a lot of people, that COULD suffice as the be-all-end-all.....but I like to hear a little "why," personally.

And I really do think Brian is making a good argument.....it's hard to argue against Homer (is it really against him though?), but I think Brian actually has a legit debate here.

I don't really want to take sides and get yelled at over here.....so I hope someone appreciates where I'm going with this.....we can all learn from this whole discussion I think.

Just a reminder to keep this a debate and not a fight.