LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Shoulder(s) In Relation To Plane... Thread: Shoulder(s) In Relation To Plane... View Single Post #16 01-07-2006, 07:45 PM phimaynard Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Nice France Posts: 41 [quote=comdpa]What the golf world has not realised so far is that the shoulder turns one way on the backstroke and another on the downstroke. Hi Compda Thank you for this post . So I'm not the only one... Shoulders plane (s) is a problem for me for a long time and your post give me a new light. If I stand up in front of a mirror my soulders line is (anatomically) perpendicular to my body axis (my spine ). If I pivot in this position my shoulders plane is perpendicular to my vertical axis (my spine ) and parallel to the ground. If I bend from my hips in front of me, the shoulders plane is still perpendicular to my spine and angled with the ground. If I start to pivot in this position ,around my spine and keeping my head as still as possible the only way to have the club (and arms ) and the shoulders on the same plane is to keep the arms perpendicular to the axis (wich is not very confortable...). So the shoulders and the club (and arms ) are travelling on differents planes in the backswing. In the dowswing , if we want the right shoulder to go down to the ball , we need a steeper shoulders plane , which need to curve , or to bend , or to tilt the axis (as far as the head is still in place) Most of time it seems to me that for great players shifting and tilting allows this knew shoulders plane. For me the downswing is more critical (maybe because the backswing pivot seems more "axial" and static), but I try to improve with the very competent help of all the fellows on this site wich is , by far , the best on the net. Happy new year to you all , and thank you for reading PM phimaynard View Public Profile Send a private message to phimaynard Find all posts by phimaynard