[12 piece bucket]

No, Bucket can't see them either but that's due to a self inflicted blindness that he's had since his teenage years. My guess is that you probably can't see them due to a software issue on your computer.

Bucket- from post #21 on this thread"
"The steeper the plane you have to slide more. Flatter planes require less slide and more rotation."
What are you drinking? I mean thinking?

So it doesn't get too confusing- let's keep "rotation" out of the picture and just deal with steepness of the plane and required hip slide.

The steeper the plane the less slide is required. The flatter the plane the more slide is required. Why? Because the flatter the plane the more the hands move "behind" you "deeper"- that requires a larger slide of the hips on the downswing for clearance of the hands to make their way to the ball without the right elbow hitting the hip.

The above would hold true to a completely "hand controlled" pivot"- or for a simplified theory with just a couple of factors in play. However, in the real world you can find golfers with steep planes that have more hip slide than golfers with flatter planes. It just depends on what kinds of movements the golfer has memorized and incorporated into his particular swing based on compensations or psychological preferences.

For an example of the simplied theory- if you were Al Geiberger with a fairly upright swing and minimal hip slide- you wouldn't want to look at a Ben Hogan with a flat plane and a tremendous hip slide and say "Gee, I'll maintain my upright swing and I think I'll try to get that big hip slide that I see Hogan had".

Holla back Homey when the medication wears off!

Come on Mikey . . .

The hip action is (hopefully) a blend of turning and sliding in order to keep the club on plane.

What makes the club come out? What makes the club stay in? Which plane has more OUT?

Hogan did slide but he got his hips OPEN too. Much more rotary than a Nicklaus or Watson . . .

How can you "for arguement's sake" take rotation out of the picture? That ain't gonna work. Sliding keeps the hands IN rotation gets the OUT. It's like taking the straight edge puzzle peices out . . . can't do that and have a puzzle.

Dookeyball





If you have a steep plane and high hands you have to slide to keep them from flying out over the plane.

Sorry doofus . . . it's you that's needing a bottle or two of pills. Wipe the boogers out of your eyes.