Torso inclination at address for different clubs per TGM

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Old 06-10-2007, 08:17 PM
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Torso inclination at address for different clubs per TGM
Yoda what would be the way a person would geometrically and precisely set up his torso tilt at address for each and every club. Obviously if you look at the average tour player down the line and with a pw wedge they have more torso angle at address then they do with a 3 iron. Using the golfing machine how would Homer explain how you would setup your spine angle so everytime you have a precise setup time after time.
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Old 06-10-2007, 10:18 PM
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I use my flying wedges and impact fix to do that….Also want to know is that a correct way.
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Old 06-10-2007, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bantamben1 View Post

Yoda what would be the way a person would geometrically and precisely set up his torso tilt at address for each and every club. Obviously if you look at the average tour player down the line and with a pw wedge they have more torso angle at address then they do with a 3 iron. Using the golfing machine how would Homer explain how you would setup your spine angle so everytime you have a precise setup time after time.
Homer Kelley favored alignments that allow the player to function on the golf course, not in the lab. For that reason, he was interested in those geometric alignments that were easy to check visually and that, ideally, would promote a 'sameness' for all Strokes. He was adamantly opposed to anything smacking of 'degrees.'

To your question:

1. Set up with the Left Wrist in its Level alignment (4-B-1); and

2. Use the the 'sole and stretch' procedure outlined in 2-J-1 to establish the correct Clubface Impact alignments.

Do these things, and the Waist Bend will take care of itself, both for each individual club and for the specific Shot at hand. However, as a general guide for Medium, Short and Long Shots, study photos 9-1-1 #1, #2 and #3.
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:57 PM
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Yoda,
You amaze me with your memory and your ability to cut to the quick. While I am not a fan of the level left wrist as many others work depending on the centrifugal forces on the wrist joint(s) - see B. Hogan, but 2-J-1 tells it all in a very precise way. However, few really try it, understand it or feel it.

ROC's first sentence is also correct, but not as precise. The shoulder cannot go down the clubshaft plane. However, the aft elbow can, thus setting up the the IMPACT-fix of one of the flying wedges.

Depending on one's focus most golf strokes are compensations!!
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:48 PM
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Yoda,
You amaze me with your memory and your ability to cut to the quick. While I am not a fan of the level left wrist as many others work depending on the centrifugal forces on the wrist joint(s) - see B. Hogan, but 2-J-1 tells it all in a very precise way. However, few really try it, understand it or feel it.

ROC's first sentence is also correct, but not as precise. The shoulder cannot go down the clubshaft plane. However, the aft elbow can, thus setting up the the IMPACT-fix of one of the flying wedges.

Depending on one's focus most golf strokes are compensations!!
Nice to see you posting Jay .
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by xyzgolfAZ View Post
KOC's first sentence is also correct, but not as precise. The shoulder cannot go down the clubshaft plane. However, the aft elbow can, thus setting up the the IMPACT-fix of one of the flying wedges.

Depending on one's focus most golf strokes are compensations!!
Thanks! "the shoulder down the shaft plane" is quoted from the preface of the book, 7th edition as my froum's signature.
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