zONE 1 -THE PIVOT

[johnnyg]

Hi
I'm new around here and TGM, could some one give me a starting point on what they think a standard pivot would be, and also would Yoda be able to give us what he thinks Mr Kelley would recommend for std components for a swinger.
Thanks and I am enjoying the site
John Glover

[Yoda]

. . . could some one give me a starting point on what they think a standard pivot would be . . .

See the MacDonald Exercises #1-#4 here.

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4435

Note the 'mark time' Foot and Knee Action (Exercises #5-#6), the Turned Chin (TGM / 1-L #1 and #2); the full turn of the Hips and Shoulders (10-12-A); the Flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn (10-13-B #2); and the vertical Back.

[KOC]

Dear Yoda,

What is your opinion regarding the Flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn (10-13-B #2) and the rotated shoulder turn (10-13-C)?

[johnnyg]

thanks yoda
is stack and tilt a 10-14-c shiftless hip turn and a 10-15-a hip action - yes I am trying to work myself through the book
johng

[Yoda]

Dear Yoda,

What is your opinion regarding the Flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn (10-13-B #2) and the rotated shoulder turn (10-13-C)?

I use the Flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn (10-13-B #2) in conjunction with the On Plane Downstroke Shoulder Turn (10-13-D #3). This combination is the Standard Shoulder Turn (10-13-A).

The Rotated Shoulder Turn (10-13-C) and its consequent Shiftless Hip Turn (10-14-C) is a 'low power' Variation and is normally confined to short shots.

[mb6606]

I use the Flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn (10-13-B #2) in conjunction with the On Plane Downstroke Shoulder Turn (10-13-D #3). This combination is the Standard Shoulder Turn (10-13-A).

The Rotated Shoulder Turn (10-13-C) and its consequent Shiftless Hip Turn (10-14-C) is a 'low power' Variation and is normally confined to short shots.

Are the stack and tilters using the rotated shoulder turn?

[Yoda]

Are the stack and tilters using the rotated shoulder turn?

I think they say they are.



Andy Plummer posts occasionally on our site as Plumdog. Perhaps he could respond.

[nuke99]

I uploaded a posture pics from courtesy of Mr. Orr.

I come to appreciate the importance of this piece much much more today. None explain to me.. I just figured them myself so it might be wrong.. so if i am wrong wrong don't laugh.. treat it as a interesting discussion.

Now which guy is more rotated shoulder turn and which guy is more flat ?... which guy have a more quiet head motion?

I think the posture have tons to do with the ability to do a rotated shoulder turn or flat shoulder turn. (agree/disagree)

the flat straight back increases the ability to perform a rotated shoulder turn.( agree /disagree)

the more eye and neck position at address decreases the ability to do a rotated shoulder turn .( agree/disagree)

you should always look down on the ball from the nose to help with rotated shoulder turn( agree/disagree)

Its not what it seems or what generally understands ( agree/disagree)

Tiger woods is the best posture for everyday golfer trying to do a flat shoulder turn ( agree /disagree)

lets have some fun..I will come up with my own set of answer ..