How does #4 work in a 3 barrel swinging stroke with hands controlled pivot? If I monitor #4, the pivot seem to take control. Thanks to all for a great site.
How does #4 work in a 3 barrel swinging stroke with hands controlled pivot? If I monitor #4, the pivot seem to take control. Thanks to all for a great site.
Number four is the pivot.
The pivot is the most misunderstood concept in TGM. Many are so fearful that ANY pivot means a pivot controlled swing that they inhibit it from doing its job- that idea is very wrong. The pivot does what the hands assigned them to do in order to impact the ball. The hands are the boss, the body or pivot is the hard labor. The pivot shall never impart its will over the hands but will always do the grunt of the swing as they are told. Homer says to train the pivot first. Let the hands align its task and let it run.
The shoulders are dual agents. They are part of the pivot and part of the power package and refered to as Accumulator #4. Shoulder action (as initiated by the hips) is the start down acceleration for the swinger and it loads the #4 pressure point which is where the inside of the left arm presses against the chest. The right shoulder ideally travels down the same plane as the hands. Once the hands are "at speed" the swinger simply keeps the hands ahead of the clubhead into and through impact.
Within your answers lies my problem with understanding. Your description is as I understand the #4 concept, and that is body controlled. If I monitor the hands the pivot can go awry. If I monitor the pivot the hands lose feel. Would it be best to just ignore results and train the pivot with dead hands, then once confident with pivot execution, monitor #3 pressure point for playing golf? I'm working my tail (moves toward target to initiate downswing) off early this season and want to be sure of my method.
Again sincerest thanks,
GG57 (3 year student of TGM and big fan of Homer Kelly)
this gives you a good idea as to how the pivot responses to the hand’s movement. Watch as the body/pivot allows the hands to continue on its path. Watch Lynn crank up the gyro.
Let me paraphrase Homer from outside the book ..the hands have a task and the body/pivot shall do nothing to prevent its assignment. What is the assignment? Impact- putting the clubface between the inside rear of the ball and the clubhead. A hinge action of an angular motion on an Incline Plane with a heavy dose of #3pp in that clubhead.
Homer said to train the pivot first but he didn’t spell it out for us- we need to do our own homework. Homer didn’t leave a book of drills as he wanted the AIs to develop their own teaching methods. This of course doesn’t help the lone reader but we do have this forum- and all of its resources. My pivot training is on going as I am learning better and more efficient body movement as my Swing stroke gets better. I train my pivot with a hand and arm motion daily (like that tv commerical) when I know my colleagues aren’t watching. LOL
READ 7-12. All of it. There is so much in that section.
From the second paragraph: referring to the pivot,
“It is the massive vehicle which transports the Power Package Assembly to the launching pad... It is the massive rotor, supplying Angular Momentum for the Throw Out power transfer to the Swinger’s orbiting Left Arm (6-B-3).”
Homer used the word massive twice (my emphases) to describe the pivot, so don’t worry that you slipped into pivot control as long as the hands trained the pivot to do its job.
The fourth power accumulated is called the Master Accumulator and besides being the angle of the left shoulder and left arm, it is the swing radius and therefor directly influenced by extensor action (6-B-1-D).
I know I am not answering your questions but I hope I am pointing you and others in a good direction.
It is always a hand controlled pivot. Awareness of the hands is vital to a good golf swing and Homer gave us many ways to educate them.
That said, the hands will have a heck of time staying on plane if the pivot is not trained correctly. Fortunately it is not hard to understand the role of the pivot outside of accomodating the motion of the hands. There is really just one major function; weight shift.
The proper weight shift makes the start down automatic. For example, as the hands and club reach the "end" of the backstroke the weight is shifted laterally targetward by movement of the lower body, namely the hips. The hip bump is just a couple of inches targetward (assuming you haven't swayed). This does several good things. It "clears" the hips so there isn't any roundhousing, it fully loads most of the power accumulators, it provides axis tilt, and gets the hands in their on-plane downstroke alignments. Once the hands and right shoulder are put on plane by the weight shift, all thats left is taking the hands and right shoulder down and out. Some golfers like to drop the hands to a flatter plane at that point, but it's an option. Aim the butt of the club at the inside quadrant of the ball and take them down that line. The pivot will respond to the aiming of the hands by pulling them downplane through hip rotation. The key is that the hand alignments and speed are controlling the body turn. The straightening right arm helps and extensor action provides a constant speed. Mind in the hands. Awareness in the hands. The body responds.
It sounds like a lot, but it's all automatic once the weight is shifted and the hands are released on their assigned downstroke path by the turning hips.
So setting up for the weight shift is really important. I like Hogans model and so does Lynn. He showed me how to set up the pivot last November and it's made a huge difference.
After your answers, I feel pretty good about a method plan. I'll report back in week or two and let you know how its progressing. Too bad no AIs in Cleveland. Any AIs out there want to move to Cleveland? We only had 120" of snow this year.
It is always a hand controlled pivot. Awareness of the hands is vital to a good golf swing and Homer gave us many ways to educate them.
That said, the hands will have a heck of time staying on plane if the pivot is not trained correctly. Fortunately it is not hard to understand the role of the pivot outside of accomodating the motion of the hands. There is really just one major function; weight shift.
The proper weight shift makes the start down automatic. For example, as the hands and club reach the "end" of the backstroke the weight is shifted laterally targetward by movement of the lower body, namely the hips. The hip bump is just a couple of inches targetward (assuming you haven't swayed). This does several good things. It "clears" the hips so there isn't any roundhousing, it fully loads most of the power accumulators, it provides axis tilt, and gets the hands in their on-plane downstroke alignments. Once the hands and right shoulder are put on plane by the weight shift, all thats left is taking the hands and right shoulder down and out. Some golfers like to drop the hands to a flatter plane at that point, but it's an option. Aim the butt of the club at the inside quadrant of the ball and take them down that line. The pivot will respond to the aiming of the hands by pulling them downplane through hip rotation. The key is that the hand alignments and speed are controlling the body turn. The straightening right arm helps and extensor action provides a constant speed. Mind in the hands. Awareness in the hands. The body responds.
It sounds like a lot, but it's all automatic once the weight is shifted and the hands are released on their assigned downstroke path by the turning hips.
So setting up for the weight shift is really important. I like Hogans model and so does Lynn. He showed me how to set up the pivot last November and it's made a huge difference.
Bagger
Bagger,
Could you please expand on "how to set up the pivot"? Thanks man!
Setup is one of my favorite subjects so thanks for asking.
I feel relatively confident discussing it because everytime I visit the swamp, Yoda always comments on it. "I love that setup"...and..."you keep your head very still, we don't need to worry about that".
There are several analogies for the basic feel of it from a muscular readiness standpoint. Think of the following; a 1000M runner lined up at the starting line waiting for the gun, A linebacker preparing to rush the QB. It is a very athletic setup position. A state of readiness.
Anyone who lifts weights will recognize the muscular tension associated with preparing for a squat. Your body can be relatively relaxed with weight on your back, but the spine is perfectly straight to handle the weight, the kness are slightly bent, the weight is balanced across the feet, and the quads are in a state of readiness to accept the load. Ted has told me that after a day long range session, his left quad burns and can be sore the next day. I'm not suggesting you need to have a large amount of tension in the legs, just a state of readiness. My leg tension varies with the shot at hand and I've found a certain amount of muscular stability in the legs allows the rest of my body to relax. It's the platform to swing from.
In every case, you are set up "decidedly targetward" or as Yoda would say, "decidedly leftward". The weight isn't favored on the left side, it is balanced but the muscular readiness is targetward. My initial impression of it when I first started using it was that I couldn't differentiate the weight ratio left or right, but it felt like I was pressing the earth down with my left foot. From a muscular tension standpoint, my left quadricepts are much more activivated than the right. The right side presses into the left. But the weight is balanced. From there, I'm ready to take it back.
It's not stiff, but it's not loose either. As the body turns on the backswing, the left knee moves to accomodate the motion and the right leg can straighten slightly if you wish. At startdown, the hip bumps targetward, the left knee moves to accomodate the weight transfer. The weight is shifted into the left leg with the hip bump. The left quad takes a nice share of the load as you drive the left foot into the ground
Oh, one more impression. You feel like you can really rip the ball as you look down on it, and you will.
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