It may be a little leap, but both of those pictures imply that the left hand is holding the club more in the fingers and not under the pad of the left hand. Certainly the thumb is "short" and not extended down the aft side of the shaft.
Two very prevalent misconceptions are surfacing here, and both need correcting.
First, Homer Kelley taught a 'Short' left thumb down the Aft side of the Shaft. Nowhere in The Golfing Machine is the advice given to 'extend' the left thumb down the Clubshaft ('Long' Thumb). Instead, the left forefinger is in a 'trigger finger' condition with the Shaft across the middle joint (the medial phalanx) and with the thumb near the tip. This is far different than the 'long' thumb Grip with its 'in the palm' Clubshaft and consequent 'ham-fisted' look.
Second, most TGM students know that, in the Strong Single Action Grip (10-2-B), the #3 Pressure Point is located on the Aft side (the 'behind' side) of the Clubshaft and that the left thumb is placed on this same line (10-2-0). Unfortunately, few of these students understand the Three-Dimensional alignment (Down, Out and Forward) of the On Plane Clubshaft during Impact. Accordingly, they make a contorted effort to put the thumb behind the Shaft while the Left Wrist is in its classic Adjusted Address position (Bent); the Clubshaft perpendicular to the Plane Line; and the back of the Left Hand facing the Target. This is all wrong.
Instead, the Grip should be taken in the Impact Fix condition. Here, the thumb will be located with the Left Wrist Flat; the Clubshaft leaning Forward; and the back of the Left Hand facing down the Angle of Approach (to 'right field', i.e., the 'alternate Target Line' per 7-2-3). In this alignment, the On Plane left thumb appears (and is) clearly 'behind' the Shaft (Aft). Then, when returned to the Classic Address position, the thumb will appear down the right side of the Clubshaft.
Flat is good!
great illustration today on the level right wrist ie. the two tendons that extend from the Right thumb as you extend the Right thumb away from you (not in the hitchhikers mode)
This keeps the left radius arm straight and the right elbow down and lower than the left elbow (which are necessary to deliver the clubhead on plane)
I was aware of the flat left wrist but your insights on the level right wrist was a major revelation !
Good Stuff !!
Last edited by YodasLuke : 03-08-2006 at 11:31 PM.
Bob,
I appreciate your comments, and I had a great time with you today. You said you wanted to be the best 70 year old around. You keep the flying wedges and you'll be one of the best 30 year olds around, at 70.
I went in and edited one word in the post above, just to give it clarity. The right wrist remains "level" (not cocked or uncocked). I know we were flying through so much info today, that term might have been mentioned and passed.
I'm looking forward to seeing you again, soon.
Ted Fort
Yoda, I appreciated your clarification of the grip very much. It straightens out a few question marks I got from the 'impact bag' video. I guess I'm guilty of trying to mimic the "1 ppt behind the shaft- 2nd ppt behind the shaft- 3rd ppt dead behind the shaft--> BAM!" by getting my left thumb on the right side of the shaft. This in turn made the back of the left hand almost face forward, so I was kind of wondering at what stage I was supposed to turn it through impact (a concept I'm having trouble with anyway).
Is it correct that 'behind' in the impact bag scenario should mean 'behind in relation to the down-out-forward arc'?
Should there also be a cushion of air between the shaft and the middle of the inside of the left hand when gripped? I've been gripping in my plam, I guess.
The TURNED LEFT HAND GRIP along with a FLAT LEFT WRIST.
Is this indeed a CLOSED CLUBFACE(CLUBFACE LOOKING TO SKY)?
Why do most good players that are in this position at the TOP(Trevino, Duval, Lietzke) actually FADE the ball?
This is a topic that should be addressed more. I'm fairly sure that Mr. Doyle actually says that the Clubface to Sky with Flat or Arched Left Wrist is OPEN, and vice versa. Of course many, many... most would say the exact opposite.
Of course whether one HOOKS or SLICES, depends a lot on how one brings the club and hands DOWN.
The TURNED LEFT HAND GRIP along with a FLAT LEFT WRIST.
Is this indeed a CLOSED CLUBFACE(CLUBFACE LOOKING TO SKY)?
Why do most good players that are in this position at the TOP(Trevino, Duval, Lietzke) actually FADE the ball?
This is a topic that should be addressed more. I'm fairly sure that Mr. Doyle actually says that the Clubface to Sky with Flat or Arched Left Wrist is OPEN, and vice versa. Of course many, many... most would say the exact opposite.
Of course whether one HOOKS or SLICES, depends a lot on how one brings the club and hands DOWN.
Arch your Left Wrist at Impact Fix . . . Clubface will OPEN. So maybe some people HOOK who have the Arch at the Top because the have to compensate for the alignment at the top which looks "shut" but is really OPENNING the clubface.
One interesting thing that I picked up by watching Yoda give this guy a lesson was that he was a bit Arched and as a result couldn't fully uncock to Full-Lever Extension. As a result could get completely DOWN because his Left Arm Wedge couldn't work properly.
gotta love the Machine.
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Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 04-24-2006 at 10:47 AM.
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