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Old 09-08-2006, 03:13 PM
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Manipulated Hands Swinger?
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The Manipulated Hands Swinger
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Manipulated Hands Swinger?
The Manipulated Hands Swinger establishes his pre-selected Impact Alignments at Impact Fix. He thus overrides the True Swinger's dependence upon Centrifugal Force to align the Clubface. However, he continues to rely on Centrifugal Force to align the Clubshaft.
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Old 09-08-2006, 04:33 PM
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The Manipulated Hands Swinger establishes his pre-selected Impact Alignments at Impact Fix. He thus overrides the True Swinger's dependence upon Centrifugal Force to align the Clubface. However, he continues to rely on Centrifugal Force to align the Clubshaft.
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Is that a battle that can be effectively and consistently won for most average humans?

Who would be some examples of Manipulated Hands Swingers?

I think people have pointed to Mr. Hogan . . . others?
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Is that a battle that can be effectively and consistently won for most average humans?

Who would be some examples of Manipulated Hands Swingers?

I think people have pointed to Mr. Hogan . . . others?
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I believe Mr. Yoda is probably a MANIPULATED HANDS SWINGER.

The True Swinger, which is probably fairly rare, has to have his BALL POSITION exactly right. He moves the ball foward a little to draw, and back a little to fade. He has to get it exactly right to produce a straight shot.

A Manipulated Hands Swinger,for example, could move his ball back, program in his intentions, and produce a low draw if he desires.
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Old 09-08-2006, 05:29 PM
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Sorry, lost u guys a little.

Does it mean the same thing as Hand Controlled Pivot for Swinger?
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Originally Posted by nuke99
Sorry, lost u guys a little.

Does it mean the same thing as Hand Controlled Pivot for Swinger?
Naw . . . The Swinger is solely dependent upon Centrifugal Force . . . period for acceleration . . . CF also naturally generates Horizontal Hinging . . .

The Manipulated Hands Swinger utilizes different Hinge Action primarily Angled Hinging to affect ball flight changes. There is great variety in trajectory with Angled Hinging. There is ONE horizontal hinge motion but INFINITE Angled Variations. The Manipulated Hands Swinger changes his ball position as the Hitter . . . back for Hook and forward for Fade. This is opposite for a "True" Swinger.

Now the question and matter at hand is this . . . Since the Swinger is solely dependent upon CF for clubhead speed . . .and CF produces Horizontal Hinging naturally . . . then is the Maniplated Hands Swinger compromised as a result?

I don't think so but it could be argued that theoretically it is an inferior procedure???
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I think Bobby Jones or VJ Singh are true Swingers.

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How does Circle Delivery Path fit in?
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Now the question and matter at hand is this . . . Since the Swinger is solely dependent upon CF for clubhead speed . . .and CF produces Horizontal Hinging naturally . . . then is the Maniplated Hands Swinger compromised as a result?
Is the Manipulated Hands Swing compromised? Not in the least.

Centrifugal Force drives the Clubhead and aligns the Clubshaft. The player aligns the Clubface based on the shot at hand and the Pattern Variations he employs.

"The Mechanics of Golf is the production and manipulation of the Line of Compression." [Italics by Yoda.]

-- Homer Kelley (2-0)

And remember...

The 'manipulation' of the Clubface occurs prior to Start Up. There is no manipulation of the Clubface during the Stroke. So, align the Clubface as necessary when taking the Grip in its 'Fix' alignments, then...

Return the Left Hand to its Flat, Level and Vertical alignment at Impact.

The Clubface will respond accordingly.
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Originally Posted by Yoda

Is the Manipulated Hands Swing compromised? Not in the least.

Centrifugal Force drives the Clubhead and aligns the Clubshaft. The player aligns the Clubface based on the shot at hand and the Pattern Variations he employs.

"The Mechanics of Golf is the production and manipulation of the Line of Compression." [Italics by Yoda.]

-- Homer Kelley (2-0)

And remember...

The 'manipulation' of the Clubface occurs prior to Start Up. There is no manipulation of the Clubface during the Stroke. So, align the Clubface as necessary when taking the Grip in its 'Fix' alignments, then...

Return the Left Hand to its Flat, Level and Vertical alignment at Impact.

The Clubface will respond accordingly.
I shall close the book on this now! Thanks Boss!
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How does Circle Delivery Path fit in?
Normally, the Circle Delivery Path is the product of the Shiftless Hip Turn. Great for Putting, not so great for Driving!

The Weight Shift (Hip Slide) makes possible a Line Delivery Path, but does not require it. Study 7-14, 10-14-A/C and 10-23-0/E.
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