How Do I Learn To Hit Down? - LynnBlakeGolf Forums

How Do I Learn To Hit Down?

The Golfing Machine - Basic

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-02-2005, 10:38 PM
12 piece bucket's Avatar
12 piece bucket 12 piece bucket is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Thomasville, NC
Posts: 4,380
Originally Posted by Yoda
In fact, learning to Deliver inert Lag Pressure into Impact is one of the most unnatural act imaginable. It is why there are so few really good players. It is also why, in the first edition of TGM, Homer Kelley used ten descriptive terms and one analogy to spell out unmistakeably its sensation:

"The correct Clubhead Lag Pressure Feel is a deadweight -- a status quo -- a deliberate, unvarying 'steady as she goes'. An unrevoked, unreversed, stable, permanent inertia. Exactly like dragging a wet mop through Impact."
DEADWEIGHT - The unrelieved weight of a heavy, motionless mass
STATUS QUO - The existing condition or state of affairs.
DELIBERATE - by conscious design or purpose
UNVARYING - persistent in occurrence and unvarying in nature
STABLE - Resistant to change of position or condition; not easily moved or disturbed - Not subject to sudden or extreme change or fluctuation
PERMANENT - Lasting or remaining without essential change
INERTIA - The tendency of a body to resist acceleration; the tendency of a body at rest to remain at rest or of a body in straight line motion to stay in motion in a straight line unless acted on by an outside force.

dictionary.com didn't have the other terms???

As Mr. K tells us in 7-19 Lag Pressure Point "feel" is not only "Constant Loading" but also "Constant DIRECTION."

So Omnipotent Asparagus Colored Professor of Lag Pressure with sparkling clean freshly mopped floors . . .I pose a question on the MOP DRAGGING. . .

When dragging the ole MOP, the feeling of LAG PRESSURE in the Hands is an UNMISTAKEABLY STRONG SENSATION of PRESSURE. Also, the muscles in the BACK, RIGHT FOREARM, and THIGHS are very much ALIVE. As we drag the Mop back and then CHANGE DIRECTIONS the wet Mop Head resists the change and the PRESSURE POINTS are LOADED. Then this LOAD is "constantly" felt and its direction is also "constant."

Do you feel the SAME degree of LAG PRESSURE in your Hands when Swinging an actual club as with the mop exercise? Or is this an exaggerated feeling to Program the Computer to recognize and be sensitive to the all important LAG PRESSURE? So it is this CONSTANT LOAD and CONSTANT DIRECTION that result in a bent right wrist and flat left wrist, no?

Thank you . . . thank you . . . thank you.

Mop Bucket
__________________
Aloha Mr. Hand

Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand

Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 12-02-2005 at 11:00 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-03-2005, 09:42 AM
Bigwill Bigwill is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Belleville, MI
Posts: 254
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket

Do you feel the SAME degree of LAG PRESSURE in your Hands when Swinging an actual club as with the mop exercise? Or is this an exaggerated feeling to Program the Computer to recognize and be sensitive to the all important LAG PRESSURE? So it is this CONSTANT LOAD and CONSTANT DIRECTION that result in a bent right wrist and flat left wrist, no?
I'm curious about this as well, Bucket. I have a hard time replicating the wet mop drag feel with shorter clubs on full shots, and forget about any kind of short shot.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-03-2005, 10:31 AM
Yoda's Avatar
Yoda Yoda is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 10,681
Feelings
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket

Do you feel the SAME degree of LAG PRESSURE in your Hands when Swinging an actual club as with the mop exercise? Or is this an exaggerated feeling to Program the Computer to recognize and be sensitive to the all important LAG PRESSURE?
The wet mop lag pressure is an exaggerated Feel, and the s-l-o-w 'drag-through' serves as dynamic Impact Interval programming for all Components of the Stroke.

Thanks, Colonel -- you may be Bucket to others but to me you'll always be The Colonel! -- for posting the definitions of Homer's descriptive terms. I appreciate your many contributions to this site.
__________________
Yoda
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-03-2005, 07:09 PM
jim_0068 jim_0068 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: the cold midwest
Posts: 675
How to learn to hit down the, the short version:

1)Start with a flat left wrist and a bent right wrist
2)pick the club up w/o letting it roll open
3)aim your hands (not the club) about 4-5" in front of the ball
4)punch the ground with the heel of your right hand.

__________________
I'm not a TGM or PGA certified Pro, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

Last edited by jim_0068 : 12-04-2005 at 12:03 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-04-2005, 07:44 PM
mabramb mabramb is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 21
Originally Posted by jim_0068
How to learn to hit down the, the short version:

1)Start with a flat left wrist and a bent right wrist
2)pick the club up w/o letting it roll open
3)aim your hands (not the club) about 4-5" in front of the ball
4)punch the ground with the heel of your right hand.

Thanks for the input. What do you mean by "strike the ground with the heel of your rignt hand"? Do you mean punch at the ground or am I not understanding the drill? Would this be the same with all the clubs (except the driver)?

Thanks

Michael
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-04-2005, 09:18 PM
jim_0068 jim_0068 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: the cold midwest
Posts: 675
Originally Posted by mabramb
Thanks for the input. What do you mean by "strike the ground with the heel of your rignt hand"? Do you mean punch at the ground or am I not understanding the drill? Would this be the same with all the clubs (except the driver)?

Thanks

Michael
Didn't say strike...said punch.

Ever see any martial artists punch someone in the chest? They do it with the heel of their hand with it "bent back."

Do the same "punch" but at the ground.

----

The 4 step drill above is basically a quick and dirty hitting motion to make you learn how to hit down with your hands ahead without getting too wordy.
__________________
I'm not a TGM or PGA certified Pro, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-05-2005, 04:53 AM
Ian Clark Ian Clark is offline
LBG Pro Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: London
Posts: 59
Jim,
That is such a descriptive thought, Punch the ground with the heel of the right hand. Not sure why but that has really struck a chord with me, thanks. Was that one of your own, or did you borrow it from someone!!!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-05-2005, 10:18 PM
jim_0068 jim_0068 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: the cold midwest
Posts: 675
I'm sure i borrowed it from someone...but i do say A LOT "punch the ground."

I just wanted to re-iterate the "heel part" because if you dont, people might start flipping. If you make them do it with the heel of their hand, it almost ensures a foward leaning shaft.
__________________
I'm not a TGM or PGA certified Pro, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-06-2005, 03:18 PM
channelback channelback is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lansing, MI
Posts: 13
When you say "in front of the ball" do you mean toward the target side of the ball or the trail side?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-06-2005, 09:15 PM
jim_0068 jim_0068 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: the cold midwest
Posts: 675
Originally Posted by channelback
When you say "in front of the ball" do you mean toward the target side of the ball or the trail side?
aim your hands parallel to your target line but keep them ahead of the ball.
__________________
I'm not a TGM or PGA certified Pro, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What is the most effective way to learn Vertical Uncocking??? 12 piece bucket The Golfing Machine - Basic 2 10-31-2006 09:26 AM
Best 'Learn-Golf' Tutorial DVD Kwak Drills, Training Aids and Equipment 8 04-19-2006 05:17 PM
Teaching to learn Fred Brattain The Golfing Machine - Basic 2 01-14-2006 11:29 AM
Newcomers - Learn the Flying Wedges...First annikan skywalker The Golfing Machine - Basic 5 01-05-2006 04:22 PM
How To Learn Golf Mechanics rwh Drills, Training Aids and Equipment 0 05-08-2005 02:38 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:12 PM.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.