Right arm participation vs Right arm thrust
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02-27-2006, 07:09 PM
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02-28-2006, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ThinkingPlus
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Those equations look mighty fine although strange to my eye. I have never seen them written out in English. I am so used to the Greek letters / mathematical forms, I had to re-read these several times to understand.
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Sorry don't know how to type Greek....My keyboard is American English as my British friends always take a jab with their light saber.........
But they are legit and documented......Stragiht from a Graduate Level Textbook used here at the Universtiy that is taught by Dr. Brian Bergerman...who has a Ph.D in Biomechanics and is one of the world's leading experts in the ther track and field event of "pole vaulting".....
BTW ...Dr. Bergerman sat on the Dissertation Committee for Dr. Ralph Mann the "Father of Model Golf".....First Question Dr. B asks...'So what do you think of Ralph Mann's work?"....Well I would never use the "Mean" to come up with a Model...I would classify them into "modal classes"...For example hitters and swingers...Pure hitters and switters...Pure Swingers and Right Arm???? Not gonna say it!!!! 
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02-28-2006, 12:49 PM
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Push vs. Pull
We have talked about this before... but I heard this from a man that is very physics savy... Is the horse Pulling the wagon, or Pushing on the collar? You would have to ask the horse to know.
Technically... there may be little or no difference, but FEEL-wise there usually is.
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02-28-2006, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lagster
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We have talked about this before... but I heard this from a man that is very physics savy... Is the horse Pulling the wagon, or Pushing on the collar? You would have to ask the horse to know.
Technically... there may be little or no difference, but FEEL-wise there usually is.
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If the center of mass of the object to be moved is behind the force used, it is a pull.
If the center of mass of the object to be moved is in front of the force used, it is a push.
The horse is pulling because the center of mass (sweetspot or cart) is ALWAYS behind the force being used. That is what 'lag' is all about.
Pulling has directional advantages. Pushing has power advantages.
The golf swing is always technically a PULL, from a physics standpoint.
The difficulty is that the human machine uses a lever that extends from left hand to right hand such that the 'feel' will tend to be in one side or the other.
The clubHEAD is always being pulled.
The handle may be pulled, or be pushed, depending on which side of the lever, which side of the coin, the body uses.
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03-01-2006, 12:28 PM
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It could be viewed that the horse pushes against the harness and the ground.
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03-01-2006, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ldeit
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It could be viewed that the horse pushes against the harness and the ground.ldeit
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That is correct Lee and, in so doing, it creates the motive power that pulls the cart.
Whenever the motive power is in front of the object being moved it is pulling. If it in the rear, then it is pushing.
This principle applies no matter how that power is generated.
Good to meet you recently; hope you're keeping well.
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03-01-2006, 10:41 PM
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The key is where the center of mass of the object to be moved is located. The center of mass for a cart is not the horses harness nor her shoes
The pressure points are always leading the clubheads center of mass downplane. Always leading the sweetspot.
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