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11-30-2007, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mp33
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I have really had a big problem this year hitting a push.
I have written about this before and thought it was a clubface issue and after ruling that out thought i was swinging too far right.Well i've kind of ruled that out too.This happens with all the clubs but magnifies with the longer clubs that go short and right.
Now getting close to desperation, i'm thinking that my lower body is overactive.
Any ideas or insight as i'm really at my wits end.
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How are you sure that you have not ruled it out...??
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11-30-2007, 01:24 PM
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Do your clubs fit?
If it's not a clubface issue or a path issue, you don't have many other choices!!!
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11-30-2007, 02:08 PM
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Clubs fit.
I've got a great looking set-up and backswing that you have seen.Flat left wrist at the top but something bad happens on the downswing.
If your hips slide towards the target would this change the path of your swing?
I have better luck when i play from an open stance but as soon as i get square the ball starts going right.
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11-30-2007, 03:25 PM
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11-30-2007, 06:54 PM
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Pure Swinger?
If you are a Pure Swinger, i.e. one who lets centrifugal force square the club, you could hit pushes if the ball is too far back in the stance, especially with the driver. This kind of swinger has to find the exact ball position, usually near low point, to produce a straight away ball flight.
If not a Pure Swinger, it could be a grip that is too weak, or poor hinge action.
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12-01-2007, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mp33
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Yo . . .
So tell us more about the ball flight? Is it a straight push? Does it curve either way? High or Low? When you hit the "push" shot are you hitting it solid?
Holla back . . .
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12-03-2007, 11:18 AM
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Bucket,
With this shot the ball goes dead right with good trajectory and fairly solid.I would guess that I do give up some yardage.
I have tried stonger grip and worked hard on clubface control along with ball position.
I really thought i'm swing too far right and have tried to come over the top.This used to work but like most band-aids they only stop the bleeding for so long.
Really kind of like Burner's answer as he might be up to something.
I've played good golf from an open stance and wonder if this slows the body down coming through the shot.
I'm getting to the point i'll try anything.
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12-03-2007, 03:17 PM
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Not feeling right!
Originally Posted by mp33
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I really thought i'm swing too far right and have tried to come over the top.This used to work but like most band-aids they only stop the bleeding for so long.
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Trace you Plane Line with your Right Forearm and #3PP. Both move On Plane Left from Low Point to Follow Through. Never ever, ever purposely try to come over the top: bad, bad, bad  and Off Plane motion from the get-go. Remember, the Right Forearm must be on Plane with a Bent Right Elbow (established at Fix) at Impact. Feel the Hands move left after Impact; even more than they do now. LET THE MOTION MAKE THE SHOT (Forget about the stupid ball). Start the club from the Top or End Smoooooother, not quick and jerky.
Your comments seem to me to be a case of Steering (3-F-7-A) along with its side-kick Quitting (3-F-7-B). Hence, the reason you feel better playing from a Square-Open (10-5-B) Plane Line. It allows you to Swing left through Impact. Report back. Don't forget "LET THE MOTION MAKE THE SHOT".
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12-04-2007, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mp33
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Bucket,
With this shot the ball goes dead right with good trajectory and fairly solid.I would guess that I do give up some yardage.
I have tried stonger grip and worked hard on clubface control along with ball position.
I really thought i'm swing too far right and have tried to come over the top.This used to work but like most band-aids they only stop the bleeding for so long.
Really kind of like Burner's answer as he might be up to something.
I've played good golf from an open stance and wonder if this slows the body down coming through the shot.
I'm getting to the point i'll try anything.
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Remember the name of this game is the Line of Compression (having a path and face that combine to make the ball go to the target). Sounds like you know that you are approaching the ball from the inside correct? I am assuming you are just hitting a straight push that doesn't curve? If so there isn't any "divergence" of the face and path . . . . so maybe you should monkey with your ball position. Could be that you are playing the ball to far back. Move it up and take some of the "swinging right" out. Or close the face a bit at address. Are you "hanging back and holding on"?
HennyBogan talks about the Right Rocket . . . it's a dead hammered push shot . . . HB is you with me? Holla?
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11-30-2007, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mp33
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Clubs fit.
I've got a great looking set-up and backswing that you have seen.Flat left wrist at the top but something bad happens on the downswing.
If your hips slide towards the target would this change the path of your swing?
I have better luck when i play from an open stance but as soon as i get square the ball starts going right.
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A little hip bunt forwards to start the down swing is commendable but if you have a tendency to overdo it or slide the entire upper body forwards then you have, effectively, put the ball back in your stance.
Moving the ball forwards in your stance at address or restricting your forward body movement on the down swing should solve your problem.
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