by expands the number 4 accumulator angle...you mean initiates release of 4?? I think that it is the slowing of right shoulder motion down plane...
Look at that video of mine...
why does the shaft stay near his right shoulder at the beginning of his downswing ( where shoulders go from about 100 degrees closed to about 50 degrees closed and the hands and clubhead travel equal amounts) where shoulder rotation is equal to clubhead rotation
to... shaft moving away from shoulder as the shoulders move about another 50 degress but the clubhead goes form above his head to impact.... that is the release of 4,2,3... and there is relatively little right shoulder motion during that phase of the swing... it still moves... but it is slower and still on plane....
The slowing of the right shoulder is the thing... the flywheel has spun the power package and the power package moves on as the flywheel slows ( but stays on plane)
At least that is the way I see it... mind still open to offers!
I don't understand why you think that the hands move away from the target to keep balance.
I think that Hogna's hands move away from the target because the shoulders have started to turn and that throws the clubshaft away from the target as the shoulder turns from 100 degrees to 70 degrees.
Consider a photograph of a good golfer hitting an iron -seen from above.
The figures represent the degree of torso-pelvis separation, and the degree of torso-pelvic separation decreases in the early downswing because the shoulders turn faster than the pelvis in the early downswing. Note as the right shoulder turns around that it must move away from the target, and that causes the hands to also move away from the target.
Here is the result of a study measuring many different values - and you can see that shoulder rotation speed exceeds pelvis rotation speed by the end of the early downswing (lead arm parallel to the ground).
Regarding release of power accumulator 4, doesn't that happen from the start of the downswing - due to muscle pulling the left arm across the rotating torso as the torso rotates around in the downswing. The muscles colored in red in the following photo are the relevant muscles pulling the left shoulder socket and left arm.
I think that the clubshaft stays near the right shoulder at the start of the downswing because Hogan had very relaxed wrists and the small amount of movement of the hands at the start of the downswing has not yet affected the clubshaft which lags behind the hands.
This is an interesting study. I have noticed that with many of the Max Trigger Delay players, that the right shoulder stays high longer into the downswing-- Hogan, Garcia, Clampett, O'Grady... and some of the Plummer and Bennett players, like Baddeley, have some of this. One of the questions here, is how do these players get the club down to Release Point? If the right shoulder is not bringing the club down, then some other part of the Pivot is, unless they have an arm drop independent of the Pivot... either with the Straightening Right Arm, or Gravity.
Hold your Left Wrist with your Right Hand at the top of the Swing. Keep holding it during Startdown.
Lateral Shift to get the Right Shoulder Downplane forces the Left Shoulder Up-Plane. But if you don't let go of your Left Wrist, then your Left Arm will not come away from your chest. If you don't hold your left arm it comes away almost immediately.
Anti-Extensor action, you can hold the club up and delay letting it move away from the Right Shoulder.
Hold your Left Wrist with your Right Hand at the top of the Swing. Keep holding it during Startdown.
Lateral Shift to get the Right Shoulder Downplane forces the Left Shoulder Up-Plane. But if you don't let go of your Left Wrist, then your Left Arm will not come away from your chest. If you don't hold your left arm it comes away almost immediately.
Anti-Extensor action, you can hold the club up and delay letting it move away from the Right Shoulder.
When you hold your hand up there . .. the right shoulder is staying higher Beavis.
When you hold your hand up there . .. the right shoulder is staying higher Beavis.
Your right shoulder stays higher the sooner you release accumulator 4.
To me that inevitably means that the power package is being pushed by the pivot for less time... but it does not mean that it can not be pushed very hard and fiercely over a small period of time before release... Hogan's instip hip turn acceleration ? maybe - or whatever Homer called it...I think that Yoda recalls Homer describing it was Hogan who inspired that concept.
Accumulator 4 releases... can i just check that i understand it correctly - is when the left upper arm moves from above the nipple line to below the nipple line... assuming youthful breast tissue ... and continues onwards towards left arm at 90 degrees to shoulder/nipple line... because at impact your left arm is pretty much at 90 degrees to your shoulders/nipple line.... so it definitely releases from above nipple line...
I take it that it is not describing the left arm coming away from the left armpit region...there is still some connection there ( although not forced).
Is that right?
So if you release 4 early....you keep right shoulder higher.... gives more time for sequencing of accumulators...less overlap...more velocity...is that right...somewhere it says more overlap more thrust...less overlap more velocity...
Your right shoulder stays higher the sooner you release accumulator 4.
To me that inevitably means that the power package is being pushed by the pivot for less time... but it does not mean that it can not be pushed very hard and fiercely over a small period of time before release... Hogan's instip hip turn acceleration ? maybe - or whatever Homer called it...I think that Yoda recalls Homer describing it was Hogan who inspired that concept.
Accumulator 4 releases... can i just check that i understand it correctly - is when the left upper arm moves from above the nipple line to below the nipple line... assuming youthful breast tissue ... and continues onwards towards left arm at 90 degrees to shoulder/nipple line... because at impact your left arm is pretty much at 90 degrees to your shoulders/nipple line.... so it definitely releases from above nipple line...
I take it that it is not describing the left arm coming away from the left armpit region...there is still some connection there ( although not forced).
Is that right?
So if you release 4 early....you keep right shoulder higher.... gives more time for sequencing of accumulators...less overlap...more velocity...is that right...somewhere it says more overlap more thrust...less overlap more velocity...
Some of that but the sequence is 4-1-2-3 right . . . left arm is check reign on the right elbow so if the left arm doesn't blast the angles stay longer right? So what blasts the angles? Right right shoulder right?
But this is a different deal . . . take your hands to the top deep and flat . .. push your hips forward and drop your right shoulder right off the bat . . . . . what does the club do???
Do the same thing but this time take your hands high and do the same thing what does the club do??
Considering the plane and making that move hip slide and right shoulder down which plane does it work with? If you want to stay on the plane?
I can see that my hypothesis has been shot down. I guess I am fishing for why I don't have more accumulator lag. My swing looks more like Watson/Toms and less like Weekley/Hogan......and I hate that. My swing looks decent, I've got good alignments, it just doesn't look as captivating as I think it should.
I don't care that I hit it pretty well regardless. A lot of teachers think that a small pulley max accumulator lag is unmanageable......but I want it anyway. I think it's a lot easier to dial something down as opposed to adding to in the golf swing.