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Old 02-06-2009, 07:50 PM
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Brian feels he uses his Right Arm a lot during the Impact Interval. That would explain why setting his Right Forearm On Plane at Address these past three years has made such a tremendous difference for him.
Brian is also very well ranked (#5 actually) in the PGA Tours stats in Scrambling and if I remember well, it was also the case last year.
I guess that his right forearm on plane in chipping helps a lot to start the ball consistently on the right track.

I also never saw him much using cut shots with an open-open stance. Instead, I see a lot of square-square + right foream on plane: I remember Dave Pelz in his Short Game bible saying that ball's behaviour (bounce/roll/scatter) was more reliable.
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I've been looking over all our V1 and JC video swings this winter and it looks like the two biggest differences between Brian's swing and other professionals is the right forearm on plane and his hips seem to be much less open at impact.

I assume it's due to somewhat of a hitting action. What sort of differences do you all see between the forearm on plane and the hands hanging straight down? In my own tinkering, the forearm on plane makes clubshaft control so much easier, but it seems harder to cock the left wrist with the forearm on plane.
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Old 02-26-2009, 01:53 AM
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I've been looking over all our V1 and JC video swings this winter and it looks like the two biggest differences between Brian's swing and other professionals is the right forearm on plane and his hips seem to be much less open at impact.
Both alignments are pure TGM.

Per 2-F, holding the Right Forearm On Plane at Address (9-2-1 #2) facilitates an On Plane Right Forearm at Impact (9-2-10 #2). See the photos in Post #102 here: http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...t=2383&page=11. And enjoy #91, too (my computer system gives me an enlarged click-on slide show of all 17 images; hope yours does, too). Pivot Action will cause the Right Elbow to be more bent at Impact, but the Feel (of Address and Impact) will remain the same.

As you have noted, Brian's Hips are "comparatively squared away" through Impact. This prevents the Body's Rotation from pulling the Hands 'under Plane' (and Off Line) during the Release Interval. This is the Standard Impact Fix condition of the Body (10-8-A / Editions 1-6). Sadly and ignorantly, the owner/editor of Edition 7 posthumously eliminated author Homer Kelley's longstanding language and reference to this most important characteristic.

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In my own tinkering, the forearm on plane makes clubshaft control so much easier, but it seems harder to cock the left wrist with the forearm on plane.
In Start Up and Backstroke, the Right Elbow bends and leaves its On Plane alignment at Address. As the Right Elbow moves Off Plane, so does the Right Forearm. Then, as the Body turns and the Right Elbow bends and lifts the Left Arm (7-3), the Left Wrist Turns On Plane and Cocks.

Properly understood and executed, there is no conflict.

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Both alignments are pure TGM.

As you have noted, Brian's Hips are "comparatively squared away" through Impact.
Would this be another clue that Brian is hitting? More cross line hip action versus spinning the fly wheel?
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Would this be another clue that Brian is hitting? More cross line hip action versus spinning the fly wheel?
I teach the Standard Fix (10-8-A) to both Hitters and Swingers. At Impact, the Left Wrist is Flat and the Right Wrist is Bent; the Weight is slightly left; and the Hips are "comparatively squared away," i.e., only slightly leading the square Shoulders.

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So what is it that determine how open the hips will be at impact?
Right elbow?
Planeangle?
Impact fix?

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So what is it that determine how open the hips will be at impact?
Right elbow?
Planeangle?
Impact fix?

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Remember, its not Component location or position but the alignments and relationships of their Motions and Actions that are central to this System. Many things can affect the Hips alignments: Stance Line, selected Delivery Line (especially for starters), participation of the Pivot, etc....
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
I teach the Standard Fix (10-8-A) to both Hitters and Swingers. At Impact, the Left Wrist is Flat and the Right Wrist is Bent; the Weight is slightly left; and the Hips are "comparatively squared away," i.e., only slightly leading the square Shoulders.



So much for the "two cheeks" look from DTL that most of todays instructors look for at impact. This will come as a great relief to a lot of golfers.

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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
Both alignments are pure TGM.

Per 2-F, holding the Right Forearm On Plane at Address (9-2-1 #2) facilitates an On Plane Right Forearm at Impact (9-2-10 #2). See the photos in Post #102 here: http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...t=2383&page=11. And enjoy #91, too (my computer system gives me an enlarged click-on slide show of all 17 images; hope yours does, too). Pivot Action will cause the Right Elbow to be more bent at Impact, but the Feel (of Address and Impact) will remain the same.

As you have noted, Brian's Hips are "comparatively squared away" through Impact. This prevents the Body's Rotation from pulling the Hands 'under Plane' (and Off Line) during the Release Interval. This is the Standard Impact Fix condition of the Body (10-8-A / Editions 1-6). Sadly and ignorantly, the owner/editor of Edition 7 posthumously eliminated author Homer Kelley's longstanding language and reference to this most important characteristic.



In Start Up and Backstroke, the Right Elbow bends and leaves its On Plane alignment at Address. As the Right Elbow moves Off Plane, so does the Right Forearm. Then, as the Body turns and the Right Elbow bends and lifts the Left Arm (7-3), the Left Wrist Turns On Plane and Cocks.

Properly understood and executed, there is no conflict.

Thanks for the explanation.
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