This makes no sense to me, are you saying you have two different baselines of the plane for hitting and swinging? In hitting you should be tracing a baseline that would be different than swinging for a square-square setup to hit a straight shot.
No thats not exactly what Im saying. Again Hitters can use the Angle or the Arc of Approach.
A Hitter using the Arc of Approach would be using, Tracing the same Plane Line Base Line as a Swinger.
But a Hitter using the Angle Of Approach will construct a Plane which has a Base Line that passes through Impact and Low Point and therefor out to right field to varying degrees depending on ball position vis a vis low point. A straight line equivalent to the Arc of Approaches curved Delivery Line through the same two points, which he will Cover Visually. They both satisfy the ideal geometry for Impact , 2-C-0.
Sorry , its a real head scratcher I know, gmbtempe. Words fail horribly in the description of this concept.
Single Wrist Action promotes Loading the #3 PP against the Primary Lever and Standard Wrist Action (Swivel) promotes Loading the #3 PP against the Secondary Lever.
For Swingers, the Start-up Swivels 1/4 Turn Rotation is a simplified approach and promotes the #3 PP Load against the Secondary Lever for any Length Stroke going past Start-up. "Pressure Point #3 must have a Feel of being rotated a quarter turn at The Top with Standard Wrist Action" does not mean that the Rotation occurred at the "Top".
The difference between "Top" and "End" is related to Wrist Action. With 10-18-C, Single Wrist Action, moving from Top to End would re-align the Right Forearm (1/4 Turn) and therefore re-locate the Right Elbow (1/4 Turn) with the result that the Secondary Lever would Load against the #3 PP. So, we can Swivel at Start-up or Swivel merely by moving the Backstroke from "Top" to "End". Note that each of the three procedures in 10-18-C stop the Backstroke at "Top".
The Important difference between Loading the #3 PP against the Primary or Secondary Lever is the "Subsequent Right Arm Participation". 7-3
So, the "Top" for a Hitter is an Alignment rather than a Location.
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10-11-0-3 PRESSURE POINT #3 (above) can be either active or passive (6-C-2-A) Accumulator #1 indirect drive (7-11) of the Secondary Lever Assembly (6-A-3) (2-K). That is, actively as Accumulator #2 Axe Handle application for Hitting (10-3-K, 10-19-A) but passively as Accumulator #3 (6-B-3-0, 10-19-C) or with a Right Arm Swing (7-19). Lag Loading (10-19) and Delivery Line (2-J-3) requirements. It is Loaded (10-22) per 7-19 as required by Component 19 application being employed (10-19). Study 2-G and 6-C.
Remember, with Swinging, Pressure Point #3 must have a Feel of being rotated a quarter turn at The Top with Standard Wrist Action (10-18-A), just and only because of Loading Action direction – no actual movement of anything. So from The Top to Release, the Loading put the top side of the Clubshaft against the first knuckle of the forefinger. But with Hitting there must be NO change whatever.
When the Wrists “Swivel” back to the Vertical Position (4-C-3) during Standard Wrist Action (10-18-A) per 6-B-3. Pressure Point #3 may – but need not – return to its “strong” position (Aft side of the Clubshaft). That is – if left in “Top-of-the-Clubshaft” position it becomes a Weak Single Action Grip (10-2-A) and the interchangeable equivalent to 10-2-C for Swingers. But both are improper for Hitters using Single Wrist Action (10-18-C).
You can't fake this stuff. One can artificially Load the #3 PP but the Alignments aren't present to determine the Motion of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. Then there's EA. Without EA, it's like watching a girl throw a baseball (or O.B Left). Once the #3 PP is Loaded, you need EA to keep the Elbow aligned(Power Package) and guide it down the Proper Path.
Can the Swinger load the knuckle at End without a 10-2-A Grip Type or without cocking the Right Wrist?
The key is to load the #3 PP against the Secondary Lever without regard for Grip Type or Wrist Action. 10-2-B is the recommended Grip along with Standard Wrist Action.
If you cock the Right Wrist, then you may as well bend the Left Elbow. Cock the Left Wrist is synonymous with bending the Right Elbow.
I know it's against the TGM gospel, but I don't see how it is possible to produce a good snap release without cocking the left wrist in the down stroke.
I believe even Yoda cocks his right wrist in the down stroke.
To not cock the wrist in the down stroke requires a simultaneous sweep release as far as I can see.
It may not be difficult for everyone, but for me, it was a stroke of luck that I learned how not to Cock the Right Wrist during the Swing.
I was hitting hundreds and hundreds of chip shots per night for weeks, a bunch of winters ago. My trajectory control was not good. I tried swinging with only the right arm but my wrist was too flimsy. So, I used an Ace Bandage and wrapped my wrist (and the club) in the Bent Right Wrist condition. Problem solved.
I graduated to using the Ace Bandage with a Bent spoon to stiffen the Right Wrist even more. Eventually I bought a Gary Wiren "the key" for my Right Wrist. For the first time in my life I could feel the "Right Forearm Flying Wedge". Now, those words had meaning.
To make a long story short, I learned that my Right Wrist was Cocking because of the way I was Swinging. Restraining my Bent Right Wrist forced me to use the Right Forearm Take-Away and assemble the Wedges Immediately at Start-up. It also stopped my over-swinging at the Top of the Backstroke.
All of those learned Alignments (mechanics) have since turned into "feel". I still use it once a month to check myself and I consider it the best training tool I ever bought. Today, when I direct my #3 Pressure Point along the Plane Line or at the Inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball, then that's exactly where my Club Head is going.
It may not be difficult for everyone, but for me, it was a stroke of luck that I learned how not to Cock the Right Wrist during the Swing.
Daryl,
For all i know, keeping the right wrist uncocked may be the best way to generate power. But that requires a right shoulder that goes deep into impact. And I mean really deep. Because as soon as you release Accumulator #4 and let your hands move away from your right shoulder, you have to release Accumulator #2 as well. If you want to save your Acc #2 for last later you have to cock the right wrist in the down stroke.
Yoda's stroke is one of the best I've seen. But when I see still pictures of it just prior to Acc #2 release his right wrist is to a significant extent cocked. You can try to recreate the position he has in the photo session where he is sided with Ben Hogan and judge for yourself.
Chipping is different, although I wouldn't be surprised if a very sensitive analysis of a dual horizontal chip showed signs downstroke cocking of the right wrist.
Can the Swinger load the knuckle at End without a 10-2-A Grip Type or without cocking the Right Wrist?
Yes. But lets be sure we mean the same thing by "cocking" the Right Hand. Hammering as opposed to backward bending. Dont do it , there is no need and its off plane, in a Right Forearm Flying Wedge sense.
The knuckle in question is at the base of the right hands index finger and so it is more right hand grip type dependent than left. If you want to load the shaft along the Top of the shaft for Drag Loading during Longitudinal Acceleration and then later support the Aft during Radial Acceleration you'll need two pp#3 locations aligned accordingly. If you only wish to Drive period then you could make do without the knuckle aligned to the Top of the shaft since you wont bend the shaft along that axis anyways. Best to stop at Top for that one Homer reasoned.
Here's another way to think about this crucial alignment of the right index finger and knuckle..... Think of the butt end of the grip as being divided along two axis, north south and east west. The knuckle is ideally aligned to the former the first joint to the latter. But, if you're attempting to Swing and Drag Load and your knuckle is not aligned to the Top of the shaft and then you Load that knuckle............you are not loading, not bending the shaft along the correct axis for the Swingers Drag Loading 10-19-C Startdown.
There's a lot of "ham fisted" right hand grips out there that have the knuckle on the aft of the shaft........The butt end axis that you Load is the one you will Release , action/reaction. If you load the aft you'll release it .........which'll be Radial Acceleration as opposed to the Top of the Shaft Longitudinal Acceleration. Meaning the Clubshaft, the Palm of the Left Wrist will come off the Inclined Plane early, non Sequenced Release , 2 and 3 at the same time......Hitter style. A death move for a Swinger often. Early Release at best.
It may feel like an Over the Top move to the afflicted but it cant be fixed until the shaft is loaded correctly. And the best way to insure this is to correctly align your right index in a "c" shape like fashion to the handle. Knuckle on the Top , First Joint on the Aft. Get your Right Hand , specifically your Right Index Finger and its two Lag Pressure Points aligned in accordance with your desired Loading Action and then put your Brain in your Hands and load it, then nurse it, all by Feel. . You'll remember Homer defined his mission as "Getting the correct information into the HANDS of the golfing public".
I personally have a habit of getting a little strong in the right Hand and then loading the knuckle which has slid to about 1;30 on the clock ........off plane loading being the result. My clubshaft wagging inside a little even, my left hand getting a little bowed or too flat at Top. Its a false feel Loading. Everything feels right but it isnt because my Lag Pressure Point Alignment is off. I can hit some weak cuts with those alignments.......if I try to fix it with the Delivery Path or Swivel Im off down the wrong road heading to Compensationville. Two or three wrongs trying to make a straight shot. It can take weeks to get things back. But now , I just check my Alignments and make sure the things Im feeling are actually doing what they're supposed to be doing.
Its a beautiful machine that Homer uncovered...........I think he did a lot of looking at Hogan when it came to Drag Loading 10-19-C. In Lynn's GSEM class in 1982. Homer was talking about Drag Loading, Swinging from the Feet etc and said "Now Hogan........... the ideal....."
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