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Old 03-31-2011, 12:08 AM
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You know, O.B., if you'd think about these things a little bit, you might make some progress!



Thanks Yoda. Got a feeling our next dinner together is going to touch on some of this....maybe you should just print it all out and start marking it all up, crossing things out, in preparation. That way we can talk about the other things in life.......you know: Hitting or Putting or something.
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Old 03-31-2011, 12:29 PM
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Thanks guys , glad you liked it......made most of that stuff up myself, not.

But seriously now folks, my swing fell apart a while back and this drill with its "direction of loading and its Throw" fixed me right up. Changed my mechanics my alignments even as I tried to find that feel I was missing and the associated easy compression of the Golfers Flail , Horizontal Hinging along the Arc of Approach.

I'd been getting my left wrist arched going back , which blocked the Loading both of the #2 Accumulator and the Lag Pressure Point at the Knuckle. No load , no unload, no Throw out of the #2 Angle at the Straight Line Base Line.....no golfers flail. Well it wasnt that bad but it was miss firing like an old car needing some spark plugs. Anyways the Arch was killing me and getting the loading of the Knuckle back got rid of the Arch and a little lay off of the club too. The arch , an old nemesis was caused by A FALSE FEEL OF LOADING THE #3 LAG PRESSURE POINT AT THE INDEX FINGER EARLY IN STARTUP. A wag under plane in other words. A loading of the wrong lag pressure point if you will. (Not saying you cant play fine golf loading the wrong lag pressure point or wagging it inside....Ray Floyd, Nancy Lopez wagged it underplane, Dustin Johnson's arch loads his index finger at top and he still has a ton of #2 angle ....somehow )

There's a lot more to this drill than first meets the eye when you factor in the Active Left Wrist and the Left Wrist Throw. More to noodle over if you wanted to get into it all.

-the Non Automatic Left Wrist Throw Release Trigger as a stepping stone to Automatic Snap Release. You need the Aiming Point Procedure to trick your self into Delaying longer.

-the associated pressure points: The RFT which is done with the #1 Pressure Point and the middle two fingers of the Right Hand (part of #1 or a reverse #1 pp?) The #1 as I use it anyways, does the tug of Extensor Action and the RFT on the way back. Its multi tasking. The lifting of the Primary Lever and via momentum and the bending of the right elbow ( Check Rein Action) the cocking of the left wrist. The downswings "ground up" tug on the last two fingers of the Left Hand (the #2 Pressure Point) ....the feel I associate with Drag Loading. etc The pressure points are what its all about if you Play by Feel.

- The Vertical Right Hand Grip type. You cant load the knuckle for Drag Loading properly unless your Knuckle is attached to the top of the grip! Leaving your Index Finger once placed in a trigger finger like position to run along of the Aft of the Shaft nicely. The perfect Alignment of the Right Hand for the Swinger who wants feel the Lag Pressure at the Knuckle during Longitudinal and at the Index Finger during Radial Acceleration.

-The shaft bends, during transition and then again during radial acceleration and how they line up to the Lag Pressure Points at the knuckle and index finger........ or the Flying Wedges for that matter? Are they all related, aligned given a Vertical Right Hand Grip, 10-2-B Grip ?

-The difference between Throw Out and Throw Away? (Throw out of #2 vs bending left hand)

-How does an earlier Release alter ball flight? ( Higher traj.)

-Not rolling the #3 at the bottom to hit a 10-18-E Cut Shot. (Another useful machine adjustment , a cut shot with some serious zip to it given the Left Wrist Throw........Im thinking Trevino did some of these)

-"Swinging the Hands vs Swinging the Clubhead" (from the wrists, the Wrists becoming the Center of the Clubs Swing, loss of Rhythm). The Left Writs Throw being a throwing of the clubhead , at the Plane Line. (But you gotta have Rhythm). Definitions: What the?

-The difference between throwing the clubhead at the plane line and throwing the clubface at the ball. (Dont do the latter! Steering will bend the left wrist. Given Sequenced Release during Throwout the Palm of the Right Hand does not roll off the underside of the Inclined Plane. Which by the way starts to give you a Pitch Elbow if you can get the Right Hand way down plane like this, Im thinking)

-How 'bout Mike Austin's power throw? Kinda looks like a Left Wrist Throw, Sequenced Release doesnt it? If you were going to toss a club as far as you could you'd throw the clubhead past the handle wouldnt you? There's some power there, Velocity Power. But what are the conditions under which this will work for hitting a ball effectively and does a Throw preclude Delayed Release? (I think a Throw actually encourages a late release in a counter intuitive kind of way)

-How do you sustain Lag and Throwout the #2 Accumulator at the same time?

-If the Right Forearm Magic "cocks and uncocks the left wrist" is it really doing the Left Wrist Throwing? Or is it an "active" uncocking of the Left Wrist, by the Left Wrist? Sure feels like the latter to me anyways.

Anybody got any thoughts on these related points of interest? Id be really interested cause this is where I live golf wise these days. When Im swinging.
That one post OB has helped me understand many, many videos. Now, of course, I have further questions.

1) When I slightly rock now, will my right hip (ideally) go far enough back to allow RFT/EA proper space?

2) Does RFT/EA "make" proper space as they go to Top?

3) If # 2 is true, then the slight right /left/ right is sort of "prepping the whip?"

4) In the mirror, as I rock forward, my Downstroke moves to release and Throw. Should I Throw my left wrist with a long thumb or by snapping my left elbow keeping in mind the pull has started with the rocking Pivot? Or, is it like Mike Austin's "sling motion" sort of?

You have made my purchase of "The Address Videos" and the Alignment I videos worth their weight in gold. Thanks!

Now, I have to revisit many of Lynn's and Daryl's fine posts to figure out exactly where I have lost so much precision and power.

I'm feeling Mrs. Blake's "baton twirl" and have signed up for a course at the "Y" on "Twirling for the Male Sex." I am a little concerned about how often these big burley men keep dropping their batons. They snigger a lot when that happens! I keep my back to the wall and a firm grip on my baton at all times. rest assured.

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Old 03-31-2011, 06:10 PM
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That one post OB has helped me understand many, many videos. Now, of course, I have further questions.

1) When I slightly rock now, will my right hip (ideally) go far enough back to allow RFT/EA proper space?

2) Does RFT/EA "make" proper space as they go to Top?

3) If # 2 is true, then the slight right /left/ right is sort of "prepping the whip?"

4) In the mirror, as I rock forward, my Downstroke moves to release and Throw. Should I Throw my left wrist with a long thumb or by snapping my left elbow keeping in mind the pull has started with the rocking Pivot? Or, is it like Mike Austin's "sling motion" sort of?

You have made my purchase of "The Address Videos" and the Alignment I videos worth their weight in gold. Thanks!

Now, I have to revisit many of Lynn's and Daryl's fine posts to figure out exactly where I have lost so much precision and power.

I'm feeling Mrs. Blake's "baton twirl" and have signed up for a course at the "Y" on "Twirling for the Male Sex." I am a little concerned about how often these big burley men keep dropping their batons. They snigger a lot when that happens! I keep my back to the wall and a firm grip on my baton at all times. rest assured.

ICT


Hey ICT

Briefly:

1. I dont know what you mean by rock? The first "Clear the Right Hip of 12-3". The Right Hip must Turn In , out of the way, in Startup to clear an Inside path for the on plane (Backwards In and Up) travel of the Right Forearm and specifically its Elbow which is the real problem....Right Elbow vs Right Hip collision course causing the brain to reroute the Hands and therefor the club to the outside. Off Plane.

2. No, not for "normal" golf posture anyways.....maybe Moe could Trace without clearing his right hip given how high and how far outstretched his arms were. For the rest of us, we need to Clear the Right Hip. Absolutely. See Snead or Bobby Jones or most anybody prior to the 80's. If you can Trace going back you're good. Most cant. Freddy Couples included ........I know that sounds crazy but it's true. Got to clear it again on the way down too.....which is a different animal a Slide with a Delayed Turn works for me.

3. Not sure what prepping the whip is. Never partied with MIke O. and Daryl. You are about to learn all about Right , left , Right .....dont you worry, Lynn will make sure of that one. The Pivot is the basic Rotor like golf motion. Its goes "around" while the ARms go "up and down" and the Feet do their Right, Left , Right.. Their motions are co-ordinated but independent of each other (except in Startdown). Hands to Pivot does not mean the Hands start before the Pivot sequentially if thats what you are alluding to, maybe? Again if you can Trace you're good regardless of what starts first or whatever. Even for short little chips there's a little pitter patter of the feet , a ground up thing going on. Sorta like dancing vs what happens to it in middle age. Arm waving, flat footed etc.

4. No sure about your "rock" again. Hopefully you mean Slide with "Hula Hula flexibility" which will allow the Head to stay centered and give us a new music genre , Hula Hula Rock! Although Elvis has already been there...."Rocka Hula Baby". The Left Wrist Throw: Its called a Throw and it is a throw ..... of the clubhead at the Plane Line to undo the #2 Angle and done with the Right Hand's palm flat to the underside of the Inclined Plane (meaning Sequenced Release). Which I believe Mike Austin appeared to demonstrate in a few of his videos on line. Looks that way to me.

5. Baton Twirl relates to Finish Swivel and the Golfers Flail which is all a part of this Pattern for sure. Since you are heading of to Cuscowilla next week I suggest you ask the absolute Master of this move for more information ............that'd be the lovely Mrs Yoda as you know.

You're going to have such a great time City......man I wish I was there with you guys.

Try to send us a few updates if you get a chance.

Ob

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Old 04-01-2011, 12:39 AM
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I apologize for the confusion on my part...in the video when you are describing the footwork motion with the arm/club motion...you are calling out "right/left" but the footwork motion looks "left/right"... is "right" the left foot raising up and the weight transferring to the right foot?

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Old 04-01-2011, 08:27 AM
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Yoda

I apologize for the confusion on my part...in the video when you are describing the footwork motion with the arm/club motion...you are calling out "right/left" but the footwork motion looks "left/right"... is "right" the left foot raising up and the weight transferring to the right foot?
Yes, hg, just as in walking. I'm always referring to the "loaded" foot.

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