Why would it not be possible to maintain a constant rate? You can more than attempt to sustain lag pressure or a constant hand speed you can achieve both.
Why would it not be possible to maintain a constant rate? You can more than attempt to sustain lag pressure or a constant hand speed you can achieve both.
You could. Or increase the Rate ideally for full power. But the problem is the tendency to see the Rate drop. Its like trying to hold water in your hands. Holding your breath while swimming under water. You can only do it but only for so long.
You can not have a constant rate of acceleration (of the hands) and a constant hand speed at the same time. Lag is sensed at the first lagging component. The club lags the Hands (pp #3 and along the palm of the right hand etc on the downswing, but only the pp#3 attaches to the sweetspot plane so use that one mentally). The Arms Lag the Pivot (pp #1) etc etc.
Agreed, you can't have a constant hand speed and a constant acceleration rate of the hands at the same time. It's a balance, a very fine line. Obviously the ball will slow the things down, I don't believe it's right to try and speed up through impact, there are many factors involved in this, lever extension as mentioned cf, mass, sense, over-acceleration, power accumulators, etc. Acceleration rate is not equal to lag pressure just because lag pressure is a product of acceleration rate. You can have club head acceleration with constant hand speed.
The Hands aren't always accelerating. Once they reach their Max Speed (for the shot) they continue at that speed. The Downstroke Acceleration Sequence is outlined below.
Bold and font color choice by Daryl.
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8-7 SECTION 7 – START DOWN Strictly speaking, the next six Sections are all just divisions of the Downstroke for pinpointing interim locations. This Section starts with the initial move toward Impact – the period of Shoulder Acceleration (or its equivalent – 2-H) and continues until the motion settles into its Delivery Line Path (7-23).
8-8 SECTION 8 – DOWNSTROKE This Section covers the interval between completion of the Start Down, with the Stroke settled into its Delivery Line course, until “Release” point. This is the period of Hand Acceleration.
8-9 SECTION 9 – RELEASE This Section starts at the point of Release “Trigger” and continues until Impact – the period of Clubhead Acceleration. See 8-8 above.
Nice colour choice Daryl , beauty. The slowing effect of lever extension during Release plays a part here to Id venture and thereby influences Lag Pressure.
Didnt Homer propose that the Swinger was exempt from this though.....never did understand the reasoning. If so would that imply that the Swinger could maintain Lag Pressure more easily (though it may be falling off) whilst the Hitter, would have to add muscular thrust to offset the slowing effect he is subject to?
So a Hitter must keep continually Thrusting, whereas the Swinger gets a sort of free ride in terms of acceleration and therefor its corresponding Lag Pressure.
The Lag Pressure Technique is indispensable .......and we havent even gotten into how the #3pp attaches to the top of the Sweetspot Plane! How the Lag Pressure Point connects to the sweetspot on the face of the club. Which is the secret to golf to my mind.
Dear Padawan O.B. Left,
Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to Load the #3 Pressure Point with a predetermined amount of pressure and maintain that pressure through Impact (and beyond if possible).
If you accomplish this feat, then you would have mastered the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence and the Clubhead will not race ahead of the Shaft as in so many thousands of good examples of poor execution offered to explain the mysterious entity controlling and throwing-away the Clubhead just inches before impact.
Problem with most golfers is that they miss the "Hand Acceleration" phase of the sequence. People understand "Shoulder Acceleration" and "Clubhead Acceleration" around the Pulley but "Hand Acceleration" creates fear, even in some of our most seasoned Pro's. One can't cheat the Sequence and get away with it. You can't move from Shoulder Acceleration directly to Clubhead Acceleration and expect to maintain Clubhead Lag. (Actually, I have seen it done. Wow.)
Fortunately for you, I understand Hand Acceleration. And I will easily demonstrate, using High Speed Video, that anyone, using the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence, can maintain Clubhead Lag through the Impact Interval with one hand tied behind their back. In fact, I'll do it with one hand, while standing on one leg, while drinking a Martini, Blind-folded.
I look forward to you watching my soon to be released video series on "Right Forearm Participation" in the Golf Swing.
Dear Padawan O.B. Left,
Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to Load the #3 Pressure Point with a predetermined amount of pressure and maintain that pressure through Impact (and beyond if possible).
If you accomplish this feat, then you would have mastered the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence and the Clubhead will not race ahead of the Shaft as in so many thousands of good examples of poor execution offered to explain the mysterious entity controlling and throwing-away the Clubhead just inches before impact.
Problem with most golfers is that they miss the "Hand Acceleration" phase of the sequence. People understand "Shoulder Acceleration" and "Clubhead Acceleration" around the Pulley but "Hand Acceleration" creates fear, even in some of our most seasoned Pro's. One can't cheat the Sequence and get away with it. You can't move from Shoulder Acceleration directly to Clubhead Acceleration and expect to maintain Clubhead Lag. (Actually, I have seen it done. Wow.)
Fortunately for you, I understand Hand Acceleration. And I will easily demonstrate, using High Speed Video, that anyone, using the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence, can maintain Clubhead Lag through the Impact Interval with one hand tied behind their back. In fact, I'll do it with one hand, while standing on one leg, while drinking a Martini, Blind-folded.
I look forward to you watching my soon to be released video series on "Right Forearm Participation" in the Golf Swing.
Thank you for this generosity , Jedi Master.
You say "maintain" lag pressure . Can you maintain the same amount of lag pressure? Without breaking your leg?
Are you able to sustain an amount of Lag Pressure past Low Point during what Homer termed the period of angular Deceleration ? I dont think so surely its falling off, no? The attempt to do so is a good one though, no doubt about it and I do love the Downstroke Sequence.
Hey I just hope I got some guys thinking in terms of Lag as Pressure. Lag Pressure is so important and I got sick of reading other forums where they were talking about inches of Lag or degrees of Lag or Lag as #2 angle and how its all so wrong. Which is often true using their definition of lag anyways. But thats not the lag Homer was talking about ....not at all. Lag and Acceleration are inextricably linked. Its not a golf thing only or a Homer invention it just is......take the baseball fielder who turns and whips a throw to the cut off man. What was his method of regulating the force required? Id say lag pressure. What if he suddenly changed his mind and threw to home plate? What mechanism regulated his application of force there? Id say Lag Pressure. And the regulation of the direction of his thrust? Id say Lag Pressure.
Cant wait to see your video D. Good luck with it. Hey did you really have dinner with ........ I think the guys participation here is confined to searching mentions of his own name so Im not going to say Mike O.'s name. OK? Its an old canadian trick.
[quote=Daryl;87082] In fact, I'll do it with one hand, while standing on one leg, while drinking a Martini, Blind-folded.
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Ah, you did that already - remember after dinner and the police officer pulled you over in downtown Chicago, driving me back to the Hotel. I told you to put the Martini down but no you had to show the officer what you could do - all on video tape of course.
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