Nice video Air thanks . IMO when Lynn says he's hitting .....he's hitting in the Homer fashion....active right arm extension but bent at impact, straight at both arms straight, follow through. Well thats what he taught me anyways when we went over hitting.
I originally start this with a question on my pivot activation and you responses were instrumental in some quality ball striking. So I'm back for some more help.
2 weeks back I lost all compression on the ball and I began missing it both ways. Just terrible shots high, floaty, week shot after shot. Lost EA and can't get it back, my downswing is a total black out.
Today I had to take a look on video. What I can see is my right shoulder fails to get back to the plane line established by the right arm and shaft and I'm losing my tush line in the downswing. My butt is a good 2-3 inches closer to the ball.
Loss of Extensor Action seem to bring the right elbow too far back, the elbow is a bit too far back in the dowswing (kind of stuck behind the body unless you slide the hips a lot).
RFT with more fanning and less early swivel should put you in a better position with more EA.
Your take is quite interesting to me because I have never really felt much fanning also about the time the ball started going both ways I noticed that I had a huge hip slide.
Other than "war chant walrus" do you have any links or videos demonstrating fanning?
Not specifically. I remember Lynn saying that it's mostly just sending the right hand to the Top but I don't remember if it was in a video or in the forum.
Re your stance and start up from impact fix. You can still have a sense of lag and drag despite the fact you start up with the hands ahead of the club head. In my last lesson with Lynn (we're into double digits) he talked about this very thing. He told me that Jack Nicklaus in the video that accompanied Golf My Way (if memory serves) described a sense a feel for clubhead lag despite the fact he started form impact fix. Lynn also alludes to this in his video with Brian Gay on this site. The Melhourne / MacDonald drills that Hogan described in Five Lessons , the continuous swinging drill where you brush the grass in both directions ..... while hitting a line of balls (optionally , ideally) lends itself to a lagging takeaway . RFT in Homers terms means you are PULLING it back and therefore dragging it back with the clubhead LAGGING THE HANDS to varying degrees. Literally as seen in Hogan , Nelson or in feel only as Jack described.
Lagging TAkeaway was for me, upon Lynns insistence , encouragement , the gateway to what Homer called a "one piece total motion" . As seen in Dufner , Rory , Hogan , Nelson etc etc etc. Lag and drag in two directions.
BTW Lynn would have you point your eyes directly at the ball , chin down . Probably the first thing he would say to you. It'll simplify your motion , automate your stop at Top mechanically and give you a better view of the plane line.. When putting it will allow for both eyes to see the hole, stereoscopic vision ... imperative to one perception of distance ... it makes 2D turn into 3D. In regards to your finish ...... dont finish swivel with your eyes parallel to the ground . That will make your body , pivot too erect prematurely . Come up with your eye line more diagonal ...it will fix your pivot in finish .
To recap your thoughts:
1. Chin down
2. Eyes exit with finish of pivot
3. Lag and drag (feel) from impact fix
Question
With my chin down should my eyes be parallel to the base of the plane or tilted to match the axis tilt at set up.
*** when I set my chin down and my eyes parallel my center of gravity seems to move back towards my rear and I feel a bit more comfortable with less knee flex. Does this sound like I'm on the right path? Some practice swings with my chin down have definitely shorten my backswing and based on the mirror my hands don't seem to be as stuck.
Any drills to learn the lag and drag from impact fix?
Imagine your eyes as pointing straight at the ball, your face square to the ball on its own inclined plane . A straight on gaze at the ball. As you turn through the shot keep the same "eye plane " so to speak with your head. Turn your head on the same eye plane . Letting your eyes come up through finish in a parallel to the ground fashion makes you come out of your posture prematurely . Try to come up with a diagonal gaze , an inclined plane to your skull line , eyes as you follow your shot. In so doing , yes your motion will seem tighter , smaller which is as it should be. This is a pivot fix , Zone 1, job 1.
Drills for lag and drag from impact fix? Try the Melhourne continuos swinging , striking of a line of balls thing. Make sure to brush the grass in both directions . Brush , brush , brush , brush etc. The ball just gets in the way .. The intention is to brush ...... not hit at the ball, brush the grass. Research it on this site and maybe check out Bobby Shave on line.
I guarantee that if you had a lesson with Lynn he would get you doing this. Its golfs motion , lag and drag in both directions , alignments borne of continuous motion . Homer said that Lag was golfs secret .... this is the type of lag he was referring to .... lag pressure , lag and drag as opposed to common speak lag , left wrist cock. The body leads the arms, the arms lead the club, the hands lead the club head... at every point there is a lagging component .. with an associated drag creating lag pressure.
Lynn said to me once, after years of get togethers ..... just "lag boy lag" . Makes it sound simple doesn't it. Thing is few ever feel it. But Rory and Dufner to my eye have it in spades... Hogan of course too . Hogan was in Homers words
"the ideal " in regard to start down sequence , swinging , lag and drag in both directions.
In regard to putting and your "eye line" , "skull line "...... set up to a putt and close your left eye. If you cant see the path to the hole with your right eye because your nose blocks its view , you dont have stereoscopic vision . To fix this lower your chin or get a nose job .
The head postion paid $$$ dividends with the putter, so much so my regular foursome have all pulled me aside and mention how great I'm putting.
My ball comtrol has left a lot to be desired lately and I'm hoping for some help.
Irons:
1-Every shot is blocked/ starts right of target line to some degree
2-I hitt everything longer than and 9 iron fat yet my divots are shallow except when I slide way a headed of it and then ill catch ball first. When I get a headed of it it's either a rocket push that flies a club longer than desired or ill hand the blade open and push cutt it.
Hybrids, 3wd, driver
1- pop ups, sky balls and stupid marks
2- drives that do get hit on the center of the face are right going right
This is the most demoralizing part of my game I'm 4 handicap struggling to break 80 b/c I can't find fairways and then when I punch back in play I'm missing the green.
EGAD
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Where should I start to fix this???
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