A Ben Doyle Lesson -- Part II / Ben Of Arabia
The Golfing Machine - Basic
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07-01-2005, 02:35 AM
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Great stuff! I love to see the proper hand and hip motions together. Ben does that really well. Is Ben trying to teach the guy an automatic snap release? It seems like he wants to get him to let the hips release the wrists. Is this correct?
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Mike
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07-01-2005, 11:09 AM
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Ben is all swing and all snap. Homer loved Snap too but with less hips. I believe. I might need a life line on that last point.
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07-01-2005, 02:30 PM
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Hip Throw-out vs. Law of the flail
I have a question concerning the "hip throw-out action". Is this something that is supposed to be timed and, if so, why would you need/want to do that? If the law of the flail says that the club is always seeking to get in line with the left arm, why would you need to snap the hips to throw the club out? The club is going to align with the left arm without making any attempt to throw it out, right?
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07-01-2005, 03:30 PM
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Re: Hip Throw-out vs. Law of the flail
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Originally Posted by Jimmy
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I have a question concerning the "hip throw-out action". Is this something that is supposed to be timed and, if so, why would you need/want to do that? If the law of the flail says that the club is always seeking to get in line with the left arm, why would you need to snap the hips to throw the club out? The club is going to align with the left arm without making any attempt to throw it out, right?
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Jimmy - a "cracking whip" is an image that can be quite helpful when understanding the transfer of power, and the alingments of the body and club to supply the best support of impact, the least deceleration, through impact. You need to know each side of the coin.
The left and right arms meet in the middle at PP#1. Balance is a great thing from all perspectives. That is the key to applying balanced, efficient, force in all areas. A very important concept to understand IMO.
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07-03-2005, 10:33 AM
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Doyle and Hitting?
Read thru and am trying to view the Tire and Sand items (56k also)
question-----any little adjustments to make when using these in trying to ingrain a hitting stroke?
thanks for any input
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07-03-2005, 10:45 AM
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Feeling Hitting Versus Swinging
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Originally Posted by Sbark
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Read thru and am trying to view the Tire and Sand items (56k also)
question-----any little adjustments to make when using these in trying to ingrain a hitting stroke?
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Using any resistance device, e. g., an Impact Bag, small tire (careful here) or sand...
When Hitting, feel Right Arm Muscular Drive-out Thrust driven by the Right Triceps (from a stable Right Shoulder).
When Swinging, feel Left Arm Centrigual Throw-Out Wallop driven by Hip Action (and Body Momentum Transfer).
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07-03-2005, 10:06 PM
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Re: Feeling Hitting Versus Swinging
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When Hitting, feel Right Arm Muscular Drive-out Thrust driven by the Right Triceps (from a stable Right Shoulder).
When Swinging, feel Left Arm Centrigual Throw-Out Wallop driven by Hip Action (and Body Momentum Transfer).[/quote]
This is a great "physical" explanation. I've been a swinger for years and have been trying to move to the hitting procedure because I think it makes my iron play better. I understand now why I can get into so much trouble when my hips get active.
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