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Old 03-23-2005, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
His stationary head is just so great to see....

I love the down and up at the same time .... I thought it was interesting with him talking about the clubface being open at address as it should be for the swinger.....

Great video - these are just so great - really thank you....
If a swinger holds the club at impact fix, the club will be open at address like the video clip mentioned. If the club is held in the classic mid-body position (left wrist bent, right wrist straight) at address, the club will be slightly closed.
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Old 03-23-2005, 09:37 AM
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Do You See What I See?
Oh, why wait? Let's start with this:

One month ago in The Golfing Machine -- Basic Forum, I revealed Homer Kelley's most important swing thought: Tracing the Delivery Line with the Right Forearm. Thirty seconds into this video, while he is being introduced, Sam Snead proceeds to Trace the Delivery Line with his Right Forearm Flying Wedge.

Not once...

Not twice...

But thirteen times.

Did you see it?

Did anybody see it?

How important is it to learn that the #1 Swing Thought of the greatest Golf Mind of all time -- Homer Kelley -- has just been validated by one of the greatest Golf Performers of all time -- Sam Snead?

That was in the first minute.

There is more...
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Re: Do You See What I See?
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Thirty seconds into this video, while he is being introduced, Sam Snead proceeds to Trace the Delivery Line with his Right Forearm Flying Wedge.

Not once...

Not twice...

But thirteen times.

Did you see it?

Did anybody see it?
I noticed it right away, because after watching Trevino closely you know to look for these kinds of things. Would have liked a little more maintaining of his Wedge instead of the 'hit' he adds at the bottom, but nice nonetheless. These natural acts by great players confirm what they are doing in their strokes.

And I remember you saying a while back that his 'hit down and up at the same time' comment is in reference to striking down while the clubface lays back - our good friend the vertical hinge.
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re: did you see what I see?
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There has been plenty of comments in the past on Snead's "Squat" and
big hip turn.


Take a close look at Snead's abnormally long arms.

It looks like his big pivot supports his arm swing and the club goes along for the ride.
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Old 03-23-2005, 10:41 AM
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And One More Thing...
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Take a close look at Snead's abnormally long arms.

It looks like his big pivot supports his arm swing and the club goes along for the ride.
"Learn to SWING THE HANDS, MONITOR THE HANDS. Some players use the Club only to develop its TOTAL equivalent in Lag Pressure Point Feel."

-- Homer Kelley (5-0)
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Re: And One More Thing...
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Take a close look at Snead's abnormally long arms.

It looks like his big pivot supports his arm swing and the club goes along for the ride.
"Learn to SWING THE HANDS, MONITOR THE HANDS. Some players use the Club only to develop its TOTAL equivalent in Lag Pressure Point Feel."

-- Homer Kelley (5-0)
Snead's swing or anyones swing is nothing without hand direction.
Hands are your only hope of connecting the shot at hand to your brain.

Snead takes the club back inside and under and directs his arms and
Hands on a direct line from the top to the ball.
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Snead Toski Observations
Per Yoda's request, my impressions of the video.

What jumped right out at me was the impressive
sound of compression Snead was creating.

WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP

And that was with a pitching wedge with the petal
nowhere close to the metal.


Next was Snead saying he set up with an open clubface,
and kept his hands ahead of the clubhead through impact.
Got LAG?

The third thing that struck me was Snead saying multiple
times about returning the club to near- address postion
through impact. PLANE.....

The fourth most striking impression was Snead's emphasis
on letting the ball get in the way of a good swing. His action is
the epitome of smooth unhurried acceleration.
There is certainly nothing dainty or hurried in Snead's
motiion. Precise, deliberate, and heavy.

I look forward to hearing more from y'all.
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I just had a chance to watch the video, and one of the key points they make towards the end is keeping the club on plane.

Another thing that is evident, is Sam's swing going down, forward and out.
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beautiful action
I love watching great swings!
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This might be the best video in the gallery.

Snead's right hand grip, bent right wrist, right hand paddlewheel, right forearm tracing the plane line , horizontal hinge in my mind is the simplicity that is The Golfing Machine.

Certainly one could argue that he was the best player of all time.
Some highlights below:

In 1937, his first year on the Tour, he won five events, including the Oakland Open in California.

In 1938, he first won the Greater Greensboro Open, which he won eight times, the Tour record for victories at an event, concluding in 1965 at the age of 52, making him the oldest player to win a PGA Tour event.

1939 was the first year he choked at the U.S. Open, the only major event he never won.

He won 11 events in 1950. No one has since won more.

In 1974, at age 62, he shot a one-under-par 279 to come in third (three strokes behind winner Lee Trevino) at the PGA Championship at Tanglewood in Clemmons, North Carolina.

In 1978 he won the first Legends of Golf event, which was the impetus for the creation two years later of the Senior PGA TOUR, now known as the Champions Tour.

In 1979 he was the youngest PGA Tour golfer to shoot his age (67) in the second round of the 1979 Quad Cities Open. He shot under his age (66) in the final round.

In 1983, at age 71, he shot a round of 60 (12-under-par) at the Homestead in Hot Springs.

In 1997, at age 85, he shot a round of 78 at the Old White course of The Greenbrier in White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia.

Records
Most PGA Tour victories: 82
Most PGA Tour victories at an event: 8 at the Greater Greensboro Open (1938, 1946, 1949, 1950, 1955, 1956, 1960, 1965)
Oldest player to win a PGA Tour event: age 52 years, 10 months, 8 days at the 1965 Greater Greensboro Open
First PGA Tour player to shoot his age: 67 in the second round of the 1979 Quad Cities Open
Oldest player to make a cut on the PGA Tour at age 67 years, 2 months, 21 days at the 1979 Manufacturers Hanover Westchester Classic.
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