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View Poll Results: Should TGM paragraph references be included in posts?
I am actively engaged in the study of TGM and find the references extremely helpful. 59 60.82%
I am actively engaged in the study of TGM and find the references somewhat helpful. 27 27.84%
I own the book but am not actively studying it so I don't need the references. 5 5.15%
I do not own the book and thus find no value in the references. 2 2.06%
I view the paragraph references as clutter and an ego trip for those who post them. 4 4.12%
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:44 AM
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To Reference Or Not To Reference
It is not difficult for me (and no doubt, certain other knowledgeable posters) to include paragraph references to The Golfing Machine® in posts. My earlier posts included a great deal of this, but lately, I've backed off considerably (but not completely). I am sure some members find them valuable and others view them as clutter. However, to date I have done nothing to quantify those numbers. Please respond to the attached poll. I will use its results to guide my future writings.
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Old 10-26-2005, 10:08 AM
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Don't let the results fool you, I think many folks find the references useful whether they realize it or not. Sometimes, I think I have an idea and I will read a post and the reference and see that I was right on or wrong (works both ways).
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Old 10-26-2005, 10:13 AM
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I say why not.

Anything extra is welcome in my mind....just so long as it IS extra....i.e. don't just start leaving it at "10-2-B!!!!!! You fool!!!"

The "dumbed-down" explainations are ALWAYS welcome (and needed), especially for new readers.

I mean, if this were all that easy we could just use the book and we wouldn't need you (or anyone else- "the instructor") at all Yoda.

But that's not that case- we do need you.

So....I say write as much as you want but DO NOT leave out the "dumbed down" explainations of TGM.

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Old 10-26-2005, 10:18 AM
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How about this: when I finally get off my lazy behind and buy the book, I think some of them may prove to be invaluable.
That's my vote.

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Old 10-26-2005, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by redan
How about this: when I finally get off my lazy behind and buy the book, I think some of them may prove to be invaluable.
That's my vote.

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Old 10-26-2005, 12:21 PM
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Tips and Tricks for Remembering References
Regarding references in the book, they locate information that is essential -- not merely incidental -- to the subject at hand and which must be considered as replacing those numbers at those locations as though written in those locations (see 3-F-2).

One of the most common complaints when one studies the book is the amount of references littered throughout. I believe life becomes much easier if the reader has a brief idea of what the references are about without turning to them everytime. So how do you remember references and its content? Do you just have to sit down and learn them? Certainly not (unless you really want to)! You can go quite far with a few pieces basic information:
  • There are 24 Components in the Golf Stroke. Their general theme is discussed are Chapter 7, and their Variations are discussed in Chapter 10. Hence both these chapters have 24 sub-chapters, with each sub-chapter denoting the relevant component. So if I want to learn about Plane Angles, I know it's going to be in the same subchapter both chapters 7 and 10, e.g. 7-6 and 10-6.

  • A lot of things follow a general order.
    For example, when talking about the Power Accumulators in chapter 6-B. We should know there are only 4 Power Accumulators. Then all you need to know is that the Accumulator #1 is discussed in 6-B-1, then you will also immediately know without any learning that Accumulator #2 is in 6-B-2 and Accumulator #3 is in 6-B-3, and Accumulator #4 is in ... yes, you guessed it, 6-B-4!
    After further inspection, we can see there is obvious correlation between the sub-sections of 6-B-1/2/3/4. Maximum Power is always discussed in sub-section A, Zero Accumulation is always discussed in sub-section B, and Max Trigger Delay in subsection C.

    So if I wanted to know how to achieve Maximum Power with Accumulator #1. I think:
    Hmmm....what chapter are Accumulators in? Chapter 6 (The Power Package) of course because it's part of the Power Package.
    Hmmm...which bit of chapter 6? 6-B because subsection B is where all the four Accumulators are discussed. Well it's the first Accumulator we want, so it's going to be in 6-B-1.
    Hmmm...so which bit of 6-B-1? Max Power is always discussed in sub-section A for all the Accumulators
    So there we go: 6-B-1-A.
    Obviously, this process can also be reversed. You see 6-B-1-A being referenced in one of Yoda's posts. Now instead of skipping it and thinking what a geek he is, you can go through the logical steps above.

I have many more other examples, but gotta go now.

Stick with it!
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Old 10-26-2005, 01:30 PM
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I like the written explanations best, but having the paragraph references sends me right to the proper section of the book to study. If the goal of this site is to help bring TGM to the masses then clear and concise written explanations are best. Most people don't have the patience to look up things in the book---but the hardcore TGM junkies love those references! I vote for keeping the paragraph references but not making them the focal point of the posts.
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Old 10-26-2005, 02:18 PM
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I think that the references are important in order to provide a positive and unambiguous connection between illustrative examples provided in forum posts and pertinent sections of the book. In this way greater understanding of the book can be obtained making it a more practical reference for everyday use rather than an arcane textbook of golf mechanics and geometry. Simply put, the references allow one to place the sticky note explanation (forum post) in the correct place in the book.
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Old 10-26-2005, 03:00 PM
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Where to look next to the explanation is great. Treat it as most don't have the book, but those that do will have the number next to it to look up. I do occasionally, but it's easier to understand straight from the horses mouth then trying to diasect the bible of golf.

I just remember posts that looked like a foreign language to me.
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