I'm hesitant to bring this subject up because for years its been the TGM dark horse so to speak. We have a huge amount of information about Hitting and Swinging, but one major subset of swinging; The Right Arm Swing has only been discussed from one perspective.
Some of the reasons why its been excluded from discussion include:
It borders on Hitting due to the active right arm.
If done incorrectly it can cause inflammation in the right elbow ligaments (Golfers Elbow - Medial Epicondylitis). 7-19.
Its been soley associated with the Tomasello pattern and discussed ad-nauseum from that perspective.
If you are interested AND we can take Tomasello out of the discussion, I'd like to explore the correct way to perform the right arm swing. One that doesn't cause any damage and is done correctly. Lets assume that Tom identified a correct RAS pattern that works. No more discussion is required along those lines.
Its a relatively simple procedure and I have a video of Homer viewing what he believes is a right arm swing from one of his students. Bambam is putting the finishing touches on the video and it can be posted relatively soon.
Should we explore it as deep as the component level?
Can it be done from an LBG perspective without bringing Toms pattern into the discussion?
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I'm hesitant to bring this subject up because for years its been the TGM dark horse so to speak. We have a huge amount of information about Hitting and Swinging, but one major subset of swinging; The Right Arm Swing has only been discussed from one perspective.
Some of the reasons why its been excluded from discussion include:
It borders on Hitting due to the active right arm.
If done incorrectly it can cause inflammation in the right elbow ligaments similar to tennis elbow. 7-19.
Its been soley associated with the Tomasello pattern and discussed ad-nauseum from that perspective.
If you are interested AND we can take Tomasello out of the discussion, I'd like to explore the correct way to perform the right arm swing. One that doesn't cause any damage and is done correctly. Lets assume that Tom identified a correct RAS pattern that works. No more discussion is required along those lines.
Its a relatively simple procedure and I have a video of Homer viewing what he believes is a right arm swing from one of his students. Bambam is putting the finishing touches on the video and it can be posted relatively soon.
Should we explore it as deep as the component level?
Can it be done from an LBG perspective without bringing Toms pattern into the discussion?
Before you begin....ad-nauseum....there is no such word.
Have the video of homer and the right arm swinger...you can't tell!!! The better model is the man himself...Tom Tomasello!!! It's a shame LBG didn't put up the video of Tomasello's lesson with Jack DuQuette (circa 1987)....that video is awesome of Tommy's swing, I would put that swing up against any PGA tour player today!!! It's that good. Tommy's swing on that video is much better than any video of Tomasello on the gallery of this site. Top Form!!! That's why I sent it to Yoda. That's my story and I'm stickin to it.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 05-20-2008 at 10:53 PM.
Well, I tried. Sorry folks. Looks like the RAS outside of Tom is relegated to the LBG closet, once again.
Too bad, it would have been a good discussion and probably supported Toms way.
In any case, if anyone is STILL interested I can delete all member post references to Toms pattern to keep this thread on track...that is...if there is any interest.
DG - look up the wiki reference to ad-nauseum and you'll see it refers to debates that have been discussed so much, people are tired of it.
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I have tried right arm swinging and it is very powerful,
only problem I found was when it's not working well I tended to hit
a lot of hooks and pull hooks.
I have tried right arm swinging and it is very powerful,
only problem I found was when it's not working well I tended to hit
a lot of hooks and pull hooks.
There are a lot of RASers. That's why I want to discuss it.
Toms pattern is one slice out of many RAS patterns, which is why it should be explored and understood.
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1-H "Because of questions of all kinds, reams of additional detail must be made available - but separately, and probably endlessly." Homer Kelly
would love to see the video and the topic of "RAS" discussed, expanded beyond TT interpretation and pattern. LBG has been incredibly helpful in helping me understand the right arm's role in swinging and to discover the differences between lag loading and drive loading so bring on the video! Hats off to TT and to Yoda for posting his videos but maybe it's time to do a closer reading of "RAS".
I am a left arm hitter by the way
just kidding
Many RAS patterns....please enlighten us. Can you reference your sources???
DG
As many as there are hitting patterns and left arm swinging patterns. Thousands? Hundreds of Thousands? Millions?
Actually, since RAS is a subcomponent of swinging, there is probably only tens of thousands of ways to do it. Just guessing.
Source is Homer Kelley and the 24 components with their associated variations through the 12 zones.
DG - I'm doing you a favor here. If you don't see it, you and the rest of the LBG membership may lose out on some good stuff.
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