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Old 08-20-2010, 11:06 PM
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Forearm on the same plane of shaft
Does a swinger have the right or left forearm on the same plane of the shaft at impact?

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Old 08-21-2010, 12:09 AM
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Left Forearm - Right Forearm Clubshaft Alignments
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Does a swinger have the right or left forearm on the same plane of the shaft at impact?

Sorry, about this question but I can't find the answer.
With the Club secured under the heel of the Left Hand and with a Level Left Wrist (that is, neither Cocked or Uncocked) -- Hitting or Swinging -- the Club can never be 'in line' with the Left Forearm until Full Extension (Left Wrist Uncocked / Perpendicular Motion). Therefore, until that point in the Stroke -- immediately past Impact -- it can never be 'in line' (Perpendicularly) with the Clubshaft.

The Right Forearm is another story. Here, with the Left Wrist Level and the Club held towards the 'cup' of the Right Hand (which covers the Left Hand Thumb), the Right Forearm is 'in line' with the Clubshaft. This in-line condition (the Right Forearm Flying Wedge) is held throughout the Stroke.

At Address, Release and Impact, the Right Elbow (and thus, the Forearm) is in the Inclined Plane of Motion of the Clubshaft (actually, the Plane of the orbiting Sweetspot). At other points, e.g., the Backstroke, Top, Start Down and Downstroke, the Right Forearm supports that Clubshaft/Sweetspot Plane. All while maintaining its original 'in-line condition' of the Right Forearm and Clubshaft.

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Old 08-21-2010, 09:06 AM
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With the Club secured under the heel of the Left Hand and with a Level Left Wrist (that is, neither Cocked or Uncocked) -- Hitting or Swinging -- the Club can never be 'in line' with the Left Forearm until Full Extension (Left Wrist Uncocked / Perpendicular Motion). Therefore, until that point in the Stroke -- immediately past Impact -- it can never be 'in line' (Perpendicularly) with the Clubshaft.

The Right Forearm is another story. Here, with the Left Wrist Level and the Club held towards the 'cup' of the Right Hand (which covers the Left Hand Thumb), the Right Forearm is 'in line' with the Clubshaft. This in-line condition (the Right Forearm Flying Wedge) is held throughout the Stroke.

At Address, Release and Impact, the Right Elbow (and thus, the Forearm) is in the Inclined Plane of Motion of the Clubshaft (actually, the Plane of the orbiting Sweetspot). At other points, e.g., the Backstroke, Top, Start Down and Downstroke, the Right Forearm supports that Clubshaft/Sweetspot Plane. All while maintaining its original 'in-line condition' of the Right Forearm and Clubshaft.

All of which is more easily expertly demonstrated than expertly explained in text.

The ultimate solution is to come see me.

Or . . .

A Lynn Blake Certified Instructor.

Thank you Lynn.
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:19 PM
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If you were going to build the most mechanically sound stroke would you advocate getting the right forearm and shaft on the plane of the right forearm as soon as possible then just be able to rotate through the shot, I guess like Lee Trevino does?

Here is an impact photo for Duval and Trevino

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Old 08-22-2010, 04:56 PM
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Differentiating the Plane of the RFFW and the Plane of the Orbiting Sweetspot
Originally Posted by gmbtempe View Post

If you were going to build the most mechanically sound stroke would you advocate getting the right forearm and shaft on the plane of the right forearm as soon as possible then just be able to rotate through the shot, I guess like Lee Trevino does?

Here is an impact photo for Duval and Trevino

By definition, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge ("RFFW") always exhibits the Horizontal in-line condition of the Right Elbow, Forearm and Clubshaft (6-B-3-0-1). However, that does not mean that the RFFW always lies in the Inclined Plane of Motion of the orbiting Sweetspot. In other words, the elements of the RFFW -- Elbow, Forearm and Clubshaft -- lie in its own Plane, and this alignment may or may not be coincident with the Inclined Plane of the Golf Stroke.

Indeed, the RFFW leaves the Inclined Plane (even the Elbow Plane / 10-6-A) after Start Up and returns to that Plane only at Release (8-9; 12-3/Section 9 #35). Any attempt to return the Forearm sooner would result in a very "ungolf-like" Motion.

Which, of course, is always improper Execution (3-F-6).

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Old 08-23-2010, 08:20 AM
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How far Bent is Bent?
I'm guilty, in the past, of over-bending the Right Wrist which has led to a lot of strikes with an under-Plane Clubhead. The Primary Lever is King, and the Right Wrist should only Bend enough to create the Power Package Structure.

For setup, Impact Fix should determine the correct amount of bend while the Primary Lever forms a straight line. Right Wrist Bend is determined by a combination of factors such as the amount of Elbow bend at Impact (how far the Right Shoulder traveled Down-Plane) and Ball Position. However, I think, that a Swing having a good amount of Lag and right Elbow Bend will have more Right Wrist Bend at Impact. But none of this should affect the Primary Lever.

Use the Primary Lever as a guide. Think of the "amount of Right Wrist Bend" as adjusting to the amount of Right Elbow Bend, ball location and Right Shoulder Location at Impact.

If Right Wrist Bend is not accommodating then the Primary Lever will suffer. The Impact Swivel is caused by CF alone but CF cannot Swivel a Bent Lever.

The 10-2-B Grip creates the Flat Left Wrist and Bent Right Wrist. There isn't much need to do more than that.

Unless you're Innercityteacher, then you must bend the hell out of the right wrist.
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