Downswing

[wanole]

man the archives have tons of info, but lead to questions.

Two things need help with. I am a swinger and have never understood when Yoda talks about the

1. right shoulder gyro to start the downswing. I've seen the video clip, but is it just the shoulder moving down plane?

2.

Here's how to do it: From the Top, Drag Load (7-19) by Pulling the Butt End of the Club toward the Plane Line. Immediately thereafter, begin a Non-Automatic Random Sweep Release (10-24-B) -- later you can 'kick it up a notch' with the Automatic Snap Release of 10-24-E -- by Uncocking your Left Wrist strongly Downward, also toward the Plane Line. That takes only a fraction of a second, and just as soon as you Feel the strong, Downward Uncocking Motion underway, use its momentum to begin the Roll of your #3 Angle On Line through Impact. You've Launched a Three-Stage Rocket: The Drag Load established your initial Thrust; your Uncocking Left Wrist created the highest Velocity you will be able to achieve; and the #3 Accumulator picked up that Velocity and sustained it into Impact.



Now if I get to the top of my swing and want to work on the blackout zone (downswing) how do I and can I blend the two together?

I understand the second part, but it doesn't start with the right should move. Any help is appreciated.

[phillygolf]

man the archives have tons of info, but lead to questions.

Two things need help with. I am a swinger and have never understood when Yoda talks about the

1. right shoulder gyro to start the downswing. I've seen the video clip, but is it just the shoulder moving down plane?

2.

Here's how to do it: From the Top, Drag Load (7-19) by Pulling the Butt End of the Club toward the Plane Line. Immediately thereafter, begin a Non-Automatic Random Sweep Release (10-24-B) -- later you can 'kick it up a notch' with the Automatic Snap Release of 10-24-E -- by Uncocking your Left Wrist strongly Downward, also toward the Plane Line. That takes only a fraction of a second, and just as soon as you Feel the strong, Downward Uncocking Motion underway, use its momentum to begin the Roll of your #3 Angle On Line through Impact. You've Launched a Three-Stage Rocket: The Drag Load established your initial Thrust; your Uncocking Left Wrist created the highest Velocity you will be able to achieve; and the #3 Accumulator picked up that Velocity and sustained it into Impact.



Now if I get to the top of my swing and want to work on the blackout zone (downswing) how do I and can I blend the two together?

I understand the second part, but it doesn't start with the right should move. Any help is appreciated.

I think Yoda means that the right shoulder starts the gyroscope. The same way, if you were to hold a ball on a string, your right hand would start it (and then keep spinning it). In otherwards, it begins the chain reaction to induce throwout. And most importantly, YES! The right shoulder - from whatever position at the top - moves down plane and begins the sequence of events! (remember, for the right shoulder to move downplane, the hips must clear - and so, they actually move first in preparation).....MY TAKE.

Ok...for #2.

Begin to drag the butt towards the planeline. Now...immediately thereafter, begin to uncock your left wrist and then - begin to roll your forearms so you go through impact fix to both arms straight. Now....here's the good news. You can practice the above as part of your downswing waggle!!!

Drag - uncock - roll - both arms straight!!!

[wanole]

How do I make sure my shoulder is going downplanee properly. There really isn't a check for that is there?

[phillygolf]

How do I make sure my shoulder is going downplanee properly. There really isn't a check for that is there?

Sure there is!

A video camera from down the line. And dont be afraid to work on pivot controlled motions - take that right shoulder and drive it towards the ball, of course, also intermittently concentrating on the hands til it becomes 'automatic'.

-Patrick

[tongzilla]

Theoretically, the Right Shoulder should go downplane from the Top. However, after looking at many photos of pros at Impact, their Right Shoulder is almost always above Plane (above the in-line relationship of the Clubshaft and Right Forearm at Impact). It has occured to me that one needs to drive their Right Shuolder down a lot (maybe with more axis tilt?) in order to get into this On Plane position at Impact.

Any ideas?
Anyone got photos where the at Impact, you can draw a stright line from Sweetspot, Pressure Point #3 and throught the Right Shoulder (i.e. everything On Plane)? I know there is a posed photo in the book where Diane does that (sorry, haven't got book with me, but I think somewhere in 10-13).

[phillygolf]

Tong,
I am not sure Homer ever said the right shoulder is onplane at impact. I recall the statement of moving downplane lending the best support.

Far as I know Homer advocated a square or slightly open position at impact when pressed on the subject.

I think more importantly - from whereever the stroke ends, the right shoulder moves downplane initially.

Whatcha think?