Difference between Randon and Snap loading?

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Old 11-24-2005, 12:47 AM
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Just remember, everybody, that there is a difference between when the Shaft is loaded and how the Shaft is Loaded. In Pivot Strokes -- Hitting or Swinging -- the Shaft is Loaded by the Pivot. This is true whether the Player's intent is to Drive the Club through Impact (Hitting) or Drag it through Impact (Swinging).

When Hitting, the Hands stop at Top (Right Shoulder High and On Plane) and "resist the Backstroke Motion" (7-19-1) as the Hip Action initiates the Downstroke. When Swinging, the Hands typically proceed to the End (beyond the Top) and the Body Turn (Pivot) -- not the Hands -- "throws the Club against the Lag Pressure Point at The Top for Drag Loading" (7-19-3).
Then what is the difference between 3 barrel hitting and 4 barrel hitting?

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Old 11-24-2005, 01:30 AM
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Then what is the difference between 3 barrel hitting and 4 barrel hitting?

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The Four-Barrel Hitting Stroke occurs when the Right Shoulder participates actively as Shoulder Acceleration in the Start Down. This participation must be Action -- driving the Clubhead Inertia -- not merely accomodative Motion.
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Old 11-24-2005, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jim_0068
I know how to employ sweep, i know how to employ snap. Both to the "extremes" i guess. Is random just in the middle between the too?

I am pretty much a swinger with all my clubs these days and i don't employ sweep loading that much i know.

However i'm just curious if i use random or snap? I feel i should learn to help development as both a player and a "some what" instructor these days lol.

Can someone describe the main differences between random and snap for me? In my swing, i allow the right arm to cock the left and i feel a gradual cocking the entire way up but i don't really "feel" the "full wristcock" until parallel. I then drag load into impact and it "feels" like that i wait very long to release and i just let it happen naturally.

Seems like i'm a random loader to me. When i try to "snap load" i feel it involves too much timing and i also don't like the "feel" of downcocking on the downswing.

Thanks for the help
Jim,
I have a little different perspective I think. Snap has been defined as 'the last instant' but who defines that? Where does that blurry line between snap and random sweep become clear?

Perhaps the last sentence - the delayed snap of the club into position is the real key? Maybe???

Just a thought.
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Old 11-25-2005, 03:04 PM
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Jim,
I have a little different perspective I think. Snap has been defined as 'the last instant' but who defines that? Where does that blurry line between snap and random sweep become clear?
At both arms straight - follow through - the 'edge' of the circle your hands are making around the center of balance.
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Old 11-25-2005, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
At both arms straight - follow through - the 'edge' of the circle your hands are making around the center of balance.
Ed...
Sorry..I am not following you. Can you elaborate?

Also..seems you are talking about follow through - keep in mind he was referring to loading (I believe), but even in the release portion, I am not sure follow through is relevent...but I am open to other perspectives!

I'll wait for you to expand on it if you have time.

Thanks!
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