The Golfing Machine, The Walking Machine and the Mo-ron.

[annikan skywalker]

Technically speaking...Walking is "controlled falling"!!!!

[YodasLuke]

At this point, it seems to me anyway, that walking is dependent upon how our mass is distributed.

I agree.

A lot of what I have read says that there is an "optimum" gait velocity at which we reach optimum efficiency. Also, they say that running is easier than walking. Other interesting things are the transition from walking to running.

I ran 15 miles a day for eight years (5 every morning, and 10 ever afternoon). I was on athletic scholarship throughout my college days for cross country and track. So, running is something that I've experienced. I remember a road in Brevard, NC that was so steep to get to the top of the mountain that you couldn't walk it. It was much easier to run, or shuffle, with a smaller gait.

I've got some ideas on what application this has to The Golfing Machine, but I'm still looking for the precise connection. You got any thoughts on this? I think a lot of it has to do with our INTENT with regards to the execution of the golf shot. And as a result where our COM moves as a result. You know golf better than me. Do you think this crap is at all relevant?

I think CG/M is very important in the stroke. I was skimming through to find things that could affect CG/M, and the Sit Down came to mind. It's a possible connection. Here are some of the places in the book where it's referenced, but there may be others. Here are the ones that I found: 7-16, 10-16-A through C, and 10-17-0. Also in 7-17, you'll find references to the feet and the location of the weight throughout the stroke. Is this the direction in which you're going?

[ThinkingPlus]

Are you trying to make the connection with the "counter fall" as described in David Lee's Gravity Golf?

Let me hazard a guess. I think Bucket is trying to say that the mass alignments and distribution results in walking once a little control / education is applied. Similarly, in TGM, the alignments of the club, arms, and hands with control / education will naturally result in proper golf strokes. Create the wedges / flat lead wrist / bent trailing wrist (stand upright with body mass over legs), use magic of the right forearm to reach top / end (fall forward), drive down plane letting educated hands maintain your alignments through impact (let your educated legs and feet catch you alternating to propel you forward), and swivel into finish to maintain balance (swing arms to counter leg motion to maintain balance).

This description probably butchers both TGM and walking, but I think this is the gist of what Bucket is implying. The geometric principles of TGM naturally and inevitably lead to proper golf strokes like the geometric arrangement of the human body inevitably leads to proper walking.

[YodasLuke]

Let me hazard a guess. I think Bucket is trying to say that the mass alignments and distribution results in walking once a little control / education is applied. Similarly, in TGM, the alignments of the club, arms, and hands with control / education will naturally result in proper golf strokes. Create the wedges / flat lead wrist / bent trailing wrist (stand upright with body mass over legs), use magic of the right forearm to reach top / end (fall forward), drive down plane letting educated hands maintain your alignments through impact (let your educated legs and feet catch you alternating to propel you forward), and swivel into finish to maintain balance (swing arms to counter leg motion to maintain balance).

This description probably butchers both TGM and walking, but I think this is the gist of what Bucket is implying. The geometric principles of TGM naturally and inevitably lead to proper golf strokes like the geometric arrangement of the human body inevitably leads to proper walking.

Butchered, no. Precisely sliced with a Ginza knife by Steph, yes.

[12 piece bucket]

I think CG/M is very important in the stroke. I was skimming through to find things that could affect CG/M, and the Sit Down came to mind. It's a possible connection. Here are some of the places in the book where it's referenced, but there may be others. Here are the ones that I found: 7-16, 10-16-A through C, and 10-17-0. Also in 7-17, you'll find references to the feet and the location of the weight throughout the stroke. Is this the direction in which you're going?

Yeah. You're on it. I didn't know you knew my mom? That's a great picture of her . . . she's sooo cute.

I was going this way on my INTENT thing.

I was struck (pun intended) by this Yoda quote . . .

The Impact Plane Line is in front of you and down on the ground. You swing the Club Down and Out toward that Plane Line and through it toward the Low Point Plane Line.

The Target, on the other hand, is well to your left...way out there...somewhere. Steering the Club on a Line to that distant Target is completely different than swinging Down and Out toward the Plane Line down and in front of you.

I think this is HUGE. If people have the wrong TARGET/INTENT, then what will the motion of the Center of Mass be as a result?

In addition, I was struck again by your Tracing the 7 with the Right Shoulder. As a result I thought . . .are we really "swinging from the ground up?" Or is what we FEEL in the feet a result of our top heavy mass being tilted and we thus feel the ground pushing back against us?

I bet some mad scientist type has already figured this out, BUT what I think it will prove is that Mr. K was RIGHT.

[ThinkingPlus]

Butchered, no. Precisely sliced with a Ginza knife by Steph, yes.

Gotta get lucky sometime! The title sums it up in as few words as I could find.