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Old 03-18-2006, 03:24 PM
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It is a ridiculous idea to suggest that the more flexible you are the less ability you have to be stable. Stability is about how you balance forces and shouldn't be mixed up with your range of motion. Let’s say we have an experienced Yoga practitioner who's very flexible. However, his golf stroke is unstable. Does that mean he should stop doing yoga, and become less flexible, which would increase his stability? Of course not! His lack of balance is not because he's "over-flexible". It's because he has a poor sense of balance and force.

And his argument against bowling is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. It's based on the logic -- "activity y does not require sliding/lateral (or whatever) motion but activity x does require it. Therefore activity x is detrimental to activity y". So is walking detrimental to golf? Does that mean dancing is detrimental to golf? Complete baloney.

Sorry if I sound over emotional...gotta let some steam out
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He went into some detail on this at a couple of seminars I heard.

Baseball pitchers, for example, have a much different workout than golfers, due to the stresses on the arm and shoulder of the pitcher.

Golfers generally need more emphasis on back, hip, leg, foot, certain back muscles, etc.. They do a MOTION ANALYSIS to determine the specific target needs of an individual... for their sport. I believe this place now mainly works on golfers.. tour players and amateurs.

He did not like certain yoga things for golf, and did not like those squishy discs to stand on(that some golfers are using to train with).

I'm not saying I agree with everything necessarily, but a fellow with his background may know a few things.

I think the motor learning aspects of golf and sport are just starting to break the ice.
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Old 03-18-2006, 04:34 PM
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If you want to get stronger and stronger you need to continue to overload the body so it can adapt. At some point, genetics and nutrition will play a limiting role in terms of how stong you can get.

As one gets older it becomes more and more important to do weight bearing exercises. Even if it's just a maintenance program.
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Old 03-19-2006, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
So is walking detrimental to golf?

Not to distract from the main thread, but there are actually courses in my area that 'charge' you to walk if you are a member. A 'walking fee'.
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Old 03-19-2006, 03:05 PM
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Not to distract from the main thread, but there are actually courses in my area that 'charge' you to walk if you are a member. A 'walking fee'.
Does that mean using the buggy is free?
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:22 PM
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Does that mean using the buggy is free?
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Let's take this thread a different direction. Do you play better when you WALK or RIDE? Does it make any difference?
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Old 03-22-2006, 04:31 AM
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Let's take this thread a different direction. Do you play better when you WALK or RIDE? Does it make any difference?
I think it's mostly psychological. If you think you'll play badly if you ride, then that's probably what's going to happen. I personally prefer walking just because I'm used to it, and also that's what the pros do!
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:12 AM
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I only ride if it's included in the greens fee. Last summer at the country club I worked at they let me play most evenings and then I rode and got in 9 holes in 45 minutes. I enjoy playing reasonably fast so when I'm alone and riding I usually play pretty well. But there's nothing worse than catching up to someone and having it slow down your round.

Other than that though, I always walk. Did all through high school because we had to and everyone I play with walks. It's a great way to enjoy the day and always invites some good conversation.
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:24 PM
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Everyone should be walking unless they really 'need' a cart.
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Everyone should be walking unless they really 'need' a cart.
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!

Golf was made for WALKIN' period end of story. I carry my sack even though I'm fat. . . . but I got to play with a caddy once at No. 2. Right after the Open. Michael Jordan and Joe Morgan played 3 groups ahead of me. That was one good day. Stopped and hammered some chicken at Bojangles afterwards . . . life was good.

I wish courses would start more caddy programs. I'd like to go caddy at No. 2. during the summers. That would be fun. I immediately took the conversation to the lowest common denominator with the caddy . . . nekked chicks etc. He said he had caddied for Trump and he was cool dude but had stanky breath. No telling what he said about mine . . .
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